[ SECRET POST #1655 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1655 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02.
[The Secret of NIMH/Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH]


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03.
[Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle]


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04.
[Homestuck]


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05.
[Sailor Moon, Yu-Gi-Oh!]


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06.
[True Grit]


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07.
[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]


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08.
[Pretty Little Liars]


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09.
[I'm From Barcelona]


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10.
[SJR]


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11.
[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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12.
(Lindsay Ellis/Channel Awesome)


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13.
[Teahouse]


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14.
[HIM (band), Bam Margera]


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15.
[Mahou Sensei Negima!]


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16.
[Russell T. Davies]


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17.
[Britney Spears]


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18.
[Rome]


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19.
[Channel Awesome/That Guy With the Glasses]


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20.
[Voltron Force, Last Exile]


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21.
[Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones]


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22.
[Victorious]


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23.
[Glee]


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24.
[Eerie Cuties]


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25.
[Last of the Summer Wine]


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26.
[The League of Gentlemen]


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27.
[Channel Awesome/That Guy With the Glasses]


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28.
[Agora]


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29.
[Doctor Who]


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30.
[Hannah Murray]


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31.
[Jem]


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32.
[Florence + the Machine (Cosmic Love)]
















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33. [ SPOILERS for Hanna (movie)]



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34. [ SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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35. [ SPOILERS for Scott Pilgrim (movie)]



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36. [ SPOILERS for Sheryl: Kiss in the Galaxy]



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37. [ SPOILERS for Doctor Who]


















[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]





















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38. [ TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[A:tLA]


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39. [ TRIGGER WARNING for incest]

[The Borgias]


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40. [ TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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41. [ TRIGGER WARNING for domestic abuse]



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42. [ TRIGGER WARNING for incest]



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43. [ TRIGGER WARNING for stalking]



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44. [ TRIGGER WARNING for child sexual abuse ]
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #236.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[misora.livejournal.com]

...I don't know that I'd call that fic out-and-out rape, per se (it's dub-con at most), but I didn't like that particular fic, either. Zuko is far too rough with her in it. He might try to assert himself with her, but he'd never intentionally hurt her, especially when he's trying to make nice with her friends.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

Even for dub-con, it dances a little too close to the line for me. Partly because...yeah, Zuko would never take it to that degree. Especially in third season.

[(Anonymous)]

I find this to be a pattern in Zutara fics - the OOCness of the characters. I ship a lot of things and I have to say that I rarely enjoy Zutara fan fics. This fic was kind of awful. Zuko was...well I'm not even much of a Zuko fan and I think he deserves fic treatment better than this.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's half of why I stopped shipping it. A combination of the generally horrible fic (even when taking Sturgeon's Law into account) and the fanbase's tendency to be douchecanoes over the slightest little slight.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there are a few of the "hailed as the best" fics out there that I'm just like: "Really? You think this is good?" I just tend to avoid Zutara fan fiction. The ship is kind of cool, but the fans are kind of scary.

douchecanoes? LOL.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I read some of the stuff that keeps showing up on rec lists and wondered if they were even watching the same show.

I agree. The ship is okay, but the fanbase has left a rather bad taste in my mouth of late (to put it mildly).

[(Anonymous)]

I just stayed away for the most part but I saw snippits of it. The misogyny claims, Aang bashing, the Zuko-woobification, the character and relationship twisting, etc. I like my fanon without the side of canon-bashing and character-warping.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

Yeah. The worst is that the canon-bashing and creator-bashing and Aang-bashing it still hasn't stopped. In fact, it's only gotten worse with the Korra announcements.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is why I stay away. I happen to like Aang. And I happen to like the canon. And I don't think either should be subjected to the crap just because Zutara didn't happen. And it wasn't going to happen. And honestly, it has just as many issues if not more.

I think if you have to bash Aang or the canon to make your ship look good, then you don't have much of an argument to begin with.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

...Can I reprint this entire comment on a sofa-sized canvas and hang it in the ship's living room? Pretty please?

[(Anonymous)]

LOL...I am not sure if the intended audience is sane or logical enough to grasp the message.

[(Anonymous)]

Says the moderator, owner, and founder of thecakewasalie, avatar bashing community.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I created that community when I was still stupid and butthurt, and now I'm actually kind of really really sick of running it for that reason. But it has a lot of members, so I don't feel quite right just deleting it, either (though believe me, I've been tempted). So as a compromise, if you check the community profile and a few posts down on the recent entries, I introduced a couple of new anti-bashing rules. They were not very well-received, either *facedesk*

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, because it's clearly a rant community, based on hating the show.

If you don't like it, you can leave! That's not deleting it, but it's washing your hands of it.

I also find it a bit hypocritical how you're bashing everyone in that fandom for being "stupid and butthurt" if you were exactly the same way.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

Because of the way LiveJournal changed the rules with community founders, I'm not 100% sure I could just leave without deleting it. But I may as well try since there is a second maintainer.

ETA: Just left it. Happy now?

And um...I'm calling out the Zutara fandom as "stupid and butthurt" because I was the same way and I realize now that I was being kind of a gigantic douche about a silly cartoon (and that a lot of the Zutara fans, especially on LJ and on dA, are still being gigantic douches about it). How exactly am I being hypocritical when I'm calling out my own bad behavior right along with them? Or did you miss the part where I said I'm ashamed I acted like that?

[(Anonymous)]

As far as I can tell you're still stupid and butthurt, just now you're stupid and butthurt towards Zutara fans instead of the show. You're a bigger douche than the people you're calling out. You may be ashamed that you acted like that in the past, but you're doing the exact same thing right now. Just look at the comments and see who's acting stupid and butthurt.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

Eh, think whatever you want, TBH. I'm not going to apologize for calling it how I see it, especially when I've been on that side. Though after reading the comments, the only one I think is stupid and butthurt is the troll who's too lazy to spend two minutes to get an account and sign in.

*kanyeshrug*

[(Anonymous)]

Just because I'm stupid and butthurt doesn't mean you aren't!

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

And if I am? So what. We're humans, we ain't perfect. Give it a while, I'll eventually come around to admitting it. This, too, shall pass.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, sure. You're 30, it's well past time to grow up.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

So says the person trolling anonymously on the internet, because that is so much more mature and grown up, amirite?

We're humans, we're all dumb at some point. I'm probably being dumb now, too. But at least I'm admitting it.

[fickletastictot.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty the reason that it's on people's rec list is because it was porn. It definitely caters to a certain kind of kink, regardless of whether or not it was OOC. (I do agree about it being "too close to the line", as you had mentioned from above.)

I still sorta ship Z/K myself but I moved away from the fandom after I couldn't handle being swept up in post-finale madness. It stressed me out, lol. Plus, my interests/outlook eventually changed so it's a back-burner pairing I go to when I'm feeling reminiscent~ or something.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

Very likely, yeah. Though with as much porn as Zutara fandom produces, you'd think the fanbase would be able to rec something better than that.

I feel you on the post-finale madness. I got swept up in it and I'm sorry I did. I've tried to go back to it but it's like a tainted ship for me now; I can't really dissociate it from all the wank that surrounds it, and it's hard to enjoy a ship when the first thought that comes to mind is all the stupid internet drama rather than squeeing.

It doesn't help that I used to be friends with the two most crazy-as-a-shithouse-rat shippers in the fandom.

[unifilar.livejournal.com]

Firstly- douchecanoes = best word EVER. Love it. A lot.

Secondly- Funnily enough, I was originally a Aang/Katara shipper, but I joined a SERIOUSLY hostile forum that was very ZUTARA MUST DIE, so I pretended to ship Zutara to piss them off, them I actually shipped it. I found a couple grounded, mature fans of the ship and stuck with them. A lot of the other fans are definitely a bit...overzealous. Heh.