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fandomsecrets2011-07-27 08:05 pm
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[ SECRET POST #1667 ]
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Notes:
Posting this while LJ is up. Comment threads to follow
Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 099 secrets from Secret Submission Post #238.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-29 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)My point being, that has no bearing at all on the problem at hand here. I see where you're coming from, but in all fairness, you don't know these people. Granted, I don't know them, either, but I know well enough that for some people, it takes a Hell of a lot more than diet and exercise for them to even get started losing weight. This is where genetics, and, as one person pointed out below, physical disability come in. Those can have an effect on weight loss, too. Also, some overweight people have the problem as a result of thyroid issues - simply altering diet and exercising does jack shit for 90% of them, and not everyone can immediately afford the meds (or in some cases, surgery) needed to treat that problem.
tl;dr - THERE IS OFTEN MORE TO A PERSON'S WEIGHT ISSUES THAN PHYSICAL EFFORT AND EATING LESS/BETTER.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-29 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)I'm slightly overweight myself (not obese, but somewhat chubby), but I'm not kidding anyone. It's because of my own choices, and I really don't care enough about how I look to put in the effort at changing it. But unlike these FA freaks, I don't go around whining about it. If you have to grasp at that many Kate Harding-shaped straws to justify your size, then I think you're just as much of an insecure dipshit as the people who make fun of you for your weight. Get the fuck over yourselves.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-29 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 12:41 am (UTC)(link)You may now remove the foot from your mouth :)
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)I ballooned to 192lbs when I'm only 5'2 and it was due to being lazy, eating far too much and drinking far more than my body could cope with. I whined about my underactive thyroid and the ~unfairness of it all for years and only began to see what I was doing to myself when I was teaching in Japan and realized that Twinkies, sitting on the internet and drinking beer was the problem.
So I lost the goddamn weight.
But but but ~underactive thyroids and big bones. To those of you like me, just lay off the cake already.
AYRT (Warning: Very long)
(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 04:32 am (UTC)(link)So, obviously, having been in similar shoes as my own, you understand that large amounts of weight aren't lost in the same amount of time it takes to look up a medical issue that, as I was TRYING to say, might cause complications to weight loss or maintenance. I completely agree that there is no such issue that would magically cause people to become fat, but honestly, again, there is more to it than that for some people, either once they have reached a certain point in weight gain, once they have reached a certain point in their life, or a certain condition presented itself.
I say this because I am one of those people, and in my case, the complicating issue is PCOS/PCOD, an ovarian syndrome that began affecting my body circa puberty, but about which I did not know until a doctor visit in my early twenties, no thanks to how vaguely it presented in my case (I didn't have the acne or hirsutism that some others with this condition do). Two major features of this disease include obesity and insulin-resistance.
Now, it isn't clear to doctors or scientists whether those particular features CAUSE the condition or whether they come as a result of it, but here's what I can say for certain: I was always a chubby child, but when I hit puberty, I started growing from 4'10" to 5'7" and my weight started to balloon from ~130 pounds to ~250, despite neither my diet nor my routine exercise of dance classes, swimming, and P.E. changing in any significant way (well, not until I graduated, anyway, but by then the damage had already been done). Something is clearly wrong with this picture, because that amount of gained weight cannot all be the result of growing nine inches in height or adolescence-related metabolic changes.
Now that I'm in my mid-twenties? Thankfully I know about my condition, so I can take steps to better treat it. Among other things, I have been cutting calories and sugar intake and upping my exercise to make up for having to leave my dance and P.E. classes after I graduated high school. I take medicine to reduce the effects of the disease so I can try to get healthy again. Even so, it's been a slow, slow journey, because I can't fully "turn off" the effects of the PCOS/PCOD, or even the insulin-resistance, for that matter. It's taken me three years just to lose thirty pounds. I've been told the difference is far more obvious in my figure, but honestly, I'm not satisfied with the progress I've made so far. I very likely won't be satisfied with my progress for some time yet. But I will keep pushing towards my goal, as distant as it seems.
So there you have my story and the reasoning behind me saying that there are people who honestly do have problems beyond diet and exercise - because I know from personal experience that they exist. I also know from personal experience that there are people who claim to have these problems and use them as an excuse to do nothing. Does that invalidate the existence of people who honestly have problems that complicate weight loss? I don't think so. Of course, you're free to disagree, and if that's the case, we'll just have to agree to disagree, but I hope I've managed to show you my side of the argument reasonably well.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 12:39 am (UTC)(link)