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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-27 08:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #1667 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1667 ⌋


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Notes:

Posting this while LJ is up. Comment threads to follow

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 099 secrets from Secret Submission Post #238.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-07-29 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
posting something written in public doesn't make it suddenly something that has to adhere to "social justice" or any other shit

Sure it doesn't, but nor do public discussions about what people find offensive or problematic have to be shut down if those happen to offend somebody who likes the types of fiction under discussion. Frankly, the freedom of speech argument cuts against those complaining about fandom social justice as deeply as it does the social justice crowd itself - you're allowed to write anything you want, no matter how offensive and problematic, that's your freedom of speech in action, but those people talking about how offensive and problematic it is are simply exercising their own.

Those against the fandom social justic crowd really have no choice but to rely on the "sure, it's their free speech, but it's not very nice" as much as the fandom social justice crowd does.

I mean...

"shit I've no right to tell other people what to do."

...technically means you've got no right to tell people not to criticize others. That's what they want to do, why can't they?

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2011-07-30 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
They can. Technically I or nobody else has any right. But such people often go beyond the forum where their comments on such are appropriate and then I by this all inclusive token have the right to believe they are assholes for doing so and tell them as much. So criticizing them for criticizing is okay! It's a vicious circle.

Mind, this doesn't apply to debate like here though. And that goes beyond fanfiction, into simple etiquette, and the old "it's okay to not like things.mp3" that needs to be played for half the things ever discussed here.

(remix! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-p33001J-0)