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fandomsecrets2011-07-27 08:05 pm
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[ SECRET POST #1667 ]
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Notes:
Posting this while LJ is up. Comment threads to follow
Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 099 secrets from Secret Submission Post #238.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-29 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)If you don't want to change your lifestyle and lose weight, fine. You don't have to. Hell, I'm overweight myself because of crappy choices and I don't really care enough to do anything about it. But at least have the guts to be honest about why you're fat instead of pulling "science" out of your ass to cover up that you're lazy and like junk food like everyone else.
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My friend Crystal, who is bigger than my roommate is, also goes to the gym, has a job that requires a lot of physical activity, and is a vegetarian. She also loves to cook, and makes a great vegan stew.
I am the thinnest of the three. Most people to look at me wouldn't even call me fat. And I spend my time reading, searching the internet, and I can't afford membership to the gym, and I love a candy bar and I love a burger. I should be gaining weight exponentially, but funny enough, I'm maintaining the same weight I have had for years. I haven't gone up a pants size since I was eighteen. Five years ago.
They should be losing weight, but funny enough, they aren't.
To ask them to just admit [they] like to eat a lot and not exercise is to ask them to lie. To say they must not be exercising or eating well is to deny them their lived experiences and accuse them of lying.
They are beautiful and healthy and happy in their bodies, which happen to be fat bodies. Fat, healthy, bodies.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-29 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
AND REFERENCED THREE TEXT WRITTEN BY FUCKING DOCTORS.
BUT YEAH. I'M TOTALLY JUST RELYING ON FUCKING ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE.
I'M SORRY YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO CLICK A LINK.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-29 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
And I wasn't talking about WebMD. I was talking Glenn A Gaesser and Paul Campos, who wrote two of the books I mentioned. Who are doctors.
And that very first link alone, contains 56 footnotes and references.
No one else on this thread has come up with one.
I'm not responding to any more criticism unless someone wants to try to back their asses up. My point has been more than made to anyone who was actually bothered to educate themselves.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-29 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)Face it, you're desperately pulling "evidence" from whichever ass you think smells the best, and it doesn't take more than a couple Google searches to show how much shit it's made of.
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Yes, because books published for profit that don't have to be reviewed for accuracy by any independent agency written by doctors who are the laughingstocks of nutritional science
Yes, because I've always found the best way to scam people out of their money is tell people that they are okay as they are and they don't need to buy any of your products in order to live a happy life.
Oh (http://www.weightwatchers.com/Templates/Marketing/Landing_1col_nonav.aspx?xp1=home&pageid=1218021) no (http://www.nutrisystem.com/jsps_hmr/home/index.jsp?_requestid=920630) wait (http://www.atkins.com/Homepage.aspx) lol (http://www.jennycraig.com/)
The diet industry is a $40 BILLION industry. ( http://health.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/030616/16profit.htm )
There is a lot more money to be made by telling people that they are inherently flawed but YOU HAVE THE MAGIC SOLUTION. If people making money off a book disqualifies an argument, then consider the entire pro-weight loss argument disqualified.
And if the Oxford Journal doesn't do ya, how about the NIH?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19543208
"when compared to the acceptable BMI category, overweight appears to be protective against mortality. Obesity class I was not associated with an increased risk of mortality."
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-29 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)Sure it is. Do you get wet watching yourself type or something?
There's also plenty of scamming to be done (at least in the short term) selling a book that will tell a lot of grossly fat, gullible morons exactly what they want to hear. Look up Kevin Trudeau sometime.
In case you're too busy rubbing one out over your Domino's box from last night, I don't see anybody here saying that being a little chubby (read: Obesity Class I) is inherently unhealthy. But that Obesity Classes II and III (morbid and super) are definitely linked to various health issues, and to insist otherwise is either denial or flagrant stupidity (a little of both in your case).
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"And being fat or thin isn't a predictor of health until you get into the far extremes - which is what you would expect from and U curved/bell-curved population. People at the far ends of tall and short also have higher mortality"
Have a nice day!
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 12:20 am (UTC)(link)