[ SECRET POST #1667 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1667 ⌋


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Notes:

Posting this while LJ is up. Comment threads to follow

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 099 secrets from Secret Submission Post #238.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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Comments

[timemachineyeah.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry I don't care how "researched" any of this is,

That's nice. And conveniently gets you out of backing yourself up.

And I didn't say nobody could lose weight, I said it's a statistical anomaly, which it is. That is why every diet program in the world includes this-

*results not typical

Some people can lose weight. Most people can't. That's not lying. It's well researched fact. If you can come up with ONE, just ONE reliable, re-creatable study showing a diet and exercise program that was shown in clinical study to maintain a significant weight loss (meaning around 25% at least with even 50% of its participants maintaining it in the long term (meaning longer than five years) I will mail you my hair.

If they've done all that and are actually still experiencing health benefits (meaning this program isn't actively harmful) than I will sing a song, and might even try it myself.

Oh right, but you don't care about ~research~.

There are limits. To these things. Most people have a set point range. You can be on the high end or low end of your range, but most people do still have a range, they do still have a place where they cannot healthily do more. Admitting that isn't defeatist unless you think you are a failure if you are fat. The point of Fat Acceptance is to let people know they are not, and that being fat shouldn't be something that keeps you from living your life they way you imagine it.

[(Anonymous)]

And considering how often these FA bloggers make up statistics on the spot or pull them from other FA blogs (rather than be arsed to look up any legitimate studies on the matter not filtered through the mouth of Kate Harding), I'm not inclined to take your "research" as anything but the blathering of someone who is in denial of their own laziness.

And I'm also overweight. But unlike you all in this FA ridiculousness, I at least have the guts to truly accept it and that it's largely my choice to be fat, and not care whether being so is "healthy" or "normal" or not. That you're so hellbent on grasping a Kate Harding-shaped straw to prove how "normal" you are tells me you're just as, if not more, insecure than those who give you grief over your weight.

[timemachineyeah.livejournal.com]

I didn't make statistics up on the spot. I linked to the Oxford Fucking Journal.

I'm sorry you are lazy and can't be bothered to read.

Here. I'll make it easy for you.

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/35/1/55.full

There.

[(Anonymous)]

As I said before, that you consider the Oxford Journal and WebMD legitimate sources is pretty fucking hilarious.

[megu.livejournal.com]

The thing about that "results not typical" disclaimer is that not everyone does it right. If you want results from a diet or workout plan, you actually have to do it correctly. Most people don't. That is why. The reason they can't do a clinical study about weight loss is that it's all due to a person's effort, their motivation, their self control. The reason people fail is not because it's scientifically impossible to lose weight and keep it off, but because they fall back into old habits and gain the weight back. Fat does not just spontaneously grow on your body, it has to come from somewhere, and guess what, it comes from not eating right and being sedentary.

I agree there are limits to these things, and not everyone can (or should) be a size 2, and I'm not disagreeing that for some people their "healthy" weight range may fall into overweight or obesity. But trying to argue that it's not possible to lose weight and keep it off... is just nonsense.

[(Anonymous)]

The reason people fail is not because it's scientifically impossible to lose weight and keep it off, but because they fall back into old habits and gain the weight back.

This comment is golden and you should feel awesome for making it.