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NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I never want to wake up to seeing this shit again. Ever. Get your priorities straightened out. Pronto.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2011/07/27/138700956/watch-andrew-garfield-melt-your-cold-black-tiny-heart

(Oh, and Andrew would do way less damage to his career if he pissed on his CV in the middle of Times Square in broad daylight.)

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK, I thought it was cute. As much as I'm not into them remaking Spiderman so soon, I don't think this will ruin his career at all. He's already gotten a lot of notice for The Social Network, so it's not like he's completely unknown and if this fails, so will he.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think this will ruin his career at all. He's already gotten a lot of notice for The Social Network, so it's not like he's completely unknown and if this fails, so will he.

You just managed to contradict your self there. Because he is fairly well known, this kind of a risk is so bad just as his career is beginning to take off. It doesn't help that his American debut was a steaming pile of crap. Given that the new Spidey film is premiering on a Tuesday (WTF?) and the power of negative internet marketing, the odds of this failing are looking pretty good right now. I'm pretty sure this will prove Andrew is not marketable, which is a shame because he is a good actor. I mean, if nothing else, Boy A was just spot on. It was chilling. I wish he'd taken a role more like that after The Social Network.

The other half of my indignation comes from the fact that this made NPR. A lot of my friends like NPR, and I understood why until I read this column. Now I just want to punch someone on their staff for this blatant, disgusting pandering. My rage: It knows no fucking bounds.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
dude, it's a column on their website about popular culture, not like it was the big headline or they were talking about it on completely unrelated airtime. What about it was pandering?

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that they would allow such mainstream column material to take up bandwidth that could be used for investigative reporting. It's proof that serious journalism is like Keith Richard: dead but somehow not lying down.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Jesus, God forbid their POP CULTURE HAPPY HOUR PODCAST blog be allowed to print things in relation to pop culture. Everything, all the time, forever, should be about all the terrible, hard-hitting things that are going on around the world. If you are smiling even a little bit today, you are a brain-dead sheeple.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
If you are smiling even a little bit today, you are a brain-dead sheeple.

Damn right.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking more like, even if this sucks, people will still be like, "well, he was good in that Facebook movie." Where as say, with the most recent Superman movie, nobody knew who Brandon Routh was, so he didn't do so well after it failed to make a huge impact.

I think more people will think, "it was too soon to reboot Spiderman," than anything negative with Andrew. With fanboy stunts like this, most people will probably have a more positive opinion of him.

He's a huge Spiderman fan from his childhood. Even though the idea of this new Spiderman movie so soon after the previous ones irk me, I'm happy for him that he gets to play a role that means a lot to him in this way. He seems like he's having a great time, and I'm not going to begrudge him.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? Most of the complaints I've heard since the trailer was released have been focused on Garfield looking more like Edward Cullen than Peter Parker. And he totally does. The whole trailer is about his dark brooding looks and his dark brooding hair and his dark brooding past and his dark brooding wandering down an area where he doesn't belong and the his dark brooding reaction to being bitten by a spider. If anything, I think more hate will be directed at Garfield than any other aspect of the movie.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT (OP)

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, shit, I hadn't heard this before, but I can totally understand. It's more the hair than anything, at least from what I've seen. I don't know. I'm thinking of making a fundraiser out of this, where instead of going to see the movie people take the movie ticket money and pledge to donate it to charity or something.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT (OP)

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the whole face, I think. Something in the eyes and the smirk. I nearly burst out laughing upon seeing the trailer in the theater.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT (OP)

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe there's some sporking value to this movie? If there were a group of people going to see this just to give it the MST3K treatment, I'd join them.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh please. Life is way too short to be this pretentious, anon.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's not. Trust me.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG that was so cute! Thank you for linking that, I don't know how I missed it.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL WUT?

The Social Network was his American debut... well, actually Lion for Lambs was but no one cares... and it did very, very well in every respect. It has a decent shot to become a classic.

And this Comic-Con outburst which exists only in grainy Youtube videos, aimed to please a very specific crowd and the opening to a marketing spiel that will have Garfield saying that this is his dream role since he was four over and over again. Which is not pissing on his CV, it's excelling at doing publicity. Because the media eats that shit up, if you haven't noticed.

Even if Spider-man crashes and burns, his willingness to go to the mat to sell this movie will bring him points. If he also gets out of it without besmirching his rep as a good actor (you know if the critics aimed at everything but his performance) the result of going to mat to the point of embarassing himself will be that he'll not blamed for the movie failing.

Of course, that will not put him on any shortlists to headline other 200 million projects until he proves with another project that he can be that sort of lead. But he'll remain a solid candidate for lead in smaller. award-baity sort of movies and supporting roles in larger movies which is a pretty good place to be. (Think Heath Ledger before he died.) And it will be in part because of saying embarassing shit like that.

Pissing on his CV? Stop being so dramatic. Let's face it. Until the day he dies he will be the guy "who was awesome in Boy A." Garfield can't even piss high enough to ruin that.

Re: NPR, I AM DISAPPOINT

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
well, actually Lion for Lambs was but no one cares

I actually pointed that out in another reply.

Because the media eats that shit up, if you haven't noticed.

Yes, I do know that, and that's the whole point of my rant. Just because the media does something doesn't mean they should, especially when the American conscious drifts further and further away from a mass focus on policies and laws that affect the country's present and future political/economic stability. When NPR highlights these publicity stunts, it's kind of sickening. From what I've read, too, this sort of thing clashes with Garfield's own statement that he hates doing interviews and other media gigs. The only reason I still buy that is because I saw him stay relatively quiet in a group interview conducted by EW. If I hadn't seen that interview, I'd have suspected a change in his personality. That would also be unnerving.

But he'll remain a solid candidate for lead in smaller. award-baity sort of movies and supporting roles in larger movies which is a pretty good place to be. (Think Heath Ledger before he died.) And it will be in part because of saying embarassing shit like that.

In part, but how big of a part? With media attention span so short these days, how many involved behind the scenes will actually remember this speech even a year down the road? I think he'll get the award-baity roles more on the grounds that he has shown considerable success in them in the past, not by his ability to pander (which actually lessened my respect for him a little). Frankly, the one good thing about Spider-Man failing is his return to these smaller roles (or better yet a return to the UK; his material from out there is much more charming and appealing than his American-produced roles).

Until the day he dies he will be the guy "who was awesome in Boy A." Garfield can't even piss high enough to ruin that.

I think your opening statement sums up my thoughts on this line perfectly. ;)