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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-30 12:05 pm
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F!S Anon Meme (the Fifth)


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(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Anon you replied to

So very much agree with everything you said. While I can see people shipping Buffy/Spike as something twisted and dysfunctional, particularly when Buffy is messed up and punishing herself, I can't see it being portrayed as healthy and fluffy and romantic. I'd think it would be more interesting to explore the characters as troubled by their feelings and caught up in a relationship they know is hurting them and, you know, being in character. Hatesex pairings exist for a reason, why do people feel like they have to take the hate out of the equation when it's a huge part of the relationship.

I've seen the "it was only a kiss" argument before and it turns my stomach. I remember being a teenager and thinking when a guy grabbed my arse in the pub it was some form of compliment, because I was young and stupid and because that was how the world had been presented to me - if you're attractive, men can't keep their hands to themselves. I've grown older, wiser, learnt to respect myself and understand that nobody should be allowed to touch me without my permission, but that message I was spoonfed is still on our tv screens. The girls who sleep around and encourage people to view them as sex objects are the popular ones on shows like Glee. I know Glee is supposed to be a parody/satire, but somewhere halfway through the first season it lost that edge that made that apparent, making those messages seem more sincere, particularly to younger viewers.

I don't know what LMN is, sorry, but I was really freaked out when I read the Sookie Stackhouse books. She's sexually assaulted in every book (I did stop reading after the fifth, so don't know if the trend continued), and it's always presented as 'she's just that beautiful that men are driven into a sexual frenzy and can't be held accountable', whether it's a villain or somebody she's supposed to trust. It's not even acknowledged until something like the fourth book, when Sookie refers to her ex-boyfriend as having raped her, and even then there's something off about the way it's worded. Almost like the author got enough flack that she had to acknowledge it as rape but didn't really want to.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeaaahh....I agree that the Sookie Stackhouse books are fucked up. I mean, I still like them, but I can definitely acknowledge that they have a lot of problems and are kind of trashy.

Like, I remember when in an early book Bill raped Sookie in the trunk of a car (or something like that) and she was basically like "Eh, okay". I think she even outright called it as rape (which seems to be something most people in romance novels gloss over)

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
LMN - Lifetime Movie Network. Oh, their movies are so horrible, just thinking about them makes me sick.

I was trying to pinpoint exactly why I stopped reading the Sookie novels even though I enjoyed them, and that is exactly it. I liked that Sookie wasn't ashamed about wanting to feel beautiful and of thinking of herself as such, but the way the author implied that being beautiful means you have to tolerate and accept men mistreating you just made my skin itch. I think with the rape the author was trying to make it read as if Sookie didn't really understand what it was until a long while afterwards, but she failed at doing so.