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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-30 03:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #1670 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1670 ⌋


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Going to be short posts this week, LJ being down half the week means less secrets total, sorry about that.

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[identity profile] immortality.livejournal.com 2011-07-30 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe just some of us don't understand how Ron and Hermione could spend pretty much their entire third year of Hogwarts hating each other's guts, then constantly fighting the rest of the time, and then magically be in love.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
different anonymous.

i wouldn't say they "magically" fell in love. i thought it was just both of them set in their ways since they were kids (which was basically both of them arguing) but because of the fact that they were, you know, growing up they were realizing how they were attracted to each other.

but they both extremely stubborn until that moment in book 7 (plus it didn't help that ron thought hermione and harry were together as well).

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The "supposedly-hate each other only to realize they've fallen in love" is one of the oldest cliches ever found in fiction (see: just about every romantic comedy ever written or filmed), not to mention quite a few real-life romances. It's where the jokes about little kids pulling their crush's hair come from. People don't have to like the pairing, but to claim it really is a surprise or doesn't make any sense really is being delusional or willfully blind.


Most importantly, I just don't care about this issue anymore. Why won't everyone just ship and let ship?
ext_81845: mashmyre cello facepalming, from the anime zz gundam (facepalm)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-07-30 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Lots of people who love each other constantly quarrel with each other, and a lot of the fights were based on jealousy over who the other was dating at that time

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
If you honestly think there was a day in this series where Ron and Hermione actually, truly hated each other, then no wonder you don't understand them. It's now clear that its not something you ever will get or anyone will be able to convince you otherwise, which is sad because they've got a brilliant dynamic. However, you not getting them and how they tick does not make them not make sense; it also doesnt make Harry and Hermione make more sense.

That being said, even when the two weren't getting along, Hermione put more passion into her dealings with Ron than she ever had with even one conversation with Harry. Some people in life crave passion, others crave the calm.. Hermione's choice may not be the same as yours, but she's not you.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-30 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
So much THIS. Especially about the idea of Ron and Hermione hating each other - how do people even come to that conclusion? Since when does 'friends who are opinionated and bicker' translate to hatred?

There are a lot of interesting arguments for Harry/Hermione, but the one that makes me roll my eyes every time is the 'Ron is a jerk who argues with Hermione and therefore doesn't deserve her' one. Which usually ends up as 'Ron is abusive'. Everything that people hold up as a reason why Ron is supposedly abusive is usually something Harry and Hermione have also done at one point or another, but it's only bad when Ron does it, for some reason. Skeevey.

+1000000

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
This is an excellent comment!

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Great comment.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's kind of an asinine comment there.

Same thing can be said to anyone who doesn't see H/Hr: just because YOU don't get H/Hr, doesn't mean that they don't make sense. It goes both ways.

If you don't see it, then you don't see it. If it doesn't make sense to you, then it doesn't make sense to you. End of story. What's it to you? And if someone is still confused as to why H/Hr didn't end up together, then so what? Lets move on.

[identity profile] yuyithemermaid.livejournal.com 2011-08-03 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, did they say it makes no sense? They were responding to an open comment. They didn't even say anything rude.

[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-07-30 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Hormones?

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Hating each other guts is what Draco and Harry did. Ron and Hermione tiffed which EVERYONE does at some point. I have a best friend that I sometimes feel like beating to death but I love him completely and deeply. Just because they outwardly show something, doesn't mean that they also don't feel another emotion.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-31 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair they didn't hate each other the entire time. I think they were immature as teens and very sensitive to one another since they both developing an attraction and they didn't know how to handle it. Pretty typical stuff with kids.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-07-31 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
I...wow.

I'm not a big R/Hr fan - I don't care much, but I saw early on in the books which way it was going, shrugged and said, "Okay, Harry doesn't get Hermione in the end, interesting, she's going to end up Ron. Hm," and that was that to me.

They were blatantly obvious in part BECAUSE of the particular way they fought, and the things they could fight over...

Your reading of their relationship is REALLY shallow.

[identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com 2011-08-09 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
They never hated each other. Hate is not the word to use. I'm a H/Hr shipper, but to me Ron and Hermione acted like siblings. That is why I could never ship them. I get that bickering love is a trope, but it is not a trope that I'm a fan of. Ron and Hermione interact the same way my sister and I do, so that turned me off the ship. It just screamed sibling to me. Whereas, the whole two originally platonic friends slowly develop feelings for each other is pretty much my favorite trope ever.