[ SECRET POST #1670 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1670 ⌋


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Notes:

Going to be short posts this week, LJ being down half the week means less secrets total, sorry about that.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Wha? You hate Ron/Hermione but still ship Harry/Ron/Hermione? You can't like two-thirds of your OT3, not even just a smidgeon?

Also, I don't think the trope was the only thing that held up Ron and Hermione's relationship with each other. They did NOT fight all the time, and that was not the reason they were attracted to each other. The reason that they were is because they really admired and appreciated the other's qualities while they were growing up and having adventures with Harry. Eventually they became less immature and started acting like grown-ups in their affection for each other.

[(Anonymous)]

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You can't like two-thirds of your OT3, not even just a smidgeon?

*raises hand* Harry/Ron/Hermione is my OT3, but I hate Ron/Hermione, because to me they don't work at all on their own. These three are perfect as a unit together, but Ron/Hermione alone feels off balance, too argumentative and nasty towards each other. I haven't articulated that at all, but yeah, I can totally see Harry/Ron/Hermione but Ron/Hermione alone is just too angry and dysfunctional to work.

The reason that they were is because they really admired and appreciated the other's qualities while they were growing up

Really? I don't remember this at all. Occasionally Ron would blurt out that Hermione was brilliant, but it was buried amongst constant bickering and criticism. I honestly can't ever remember her admiring him or appreciating any of his qualities. It's been a while since I've read the books, but that was always my biggest problem with them - I'm all for bickering couples when there's an undercurrent of respect and admiration between them, but I never once saw that with these two. All I ever saw with them was sniping broken up occasionally by "she's brilliant! But don't tell her I said that!"

[(Anonymous)]

*High fives* All of this!

I haven't articulated that at all, but yeah, I can totally see Harry/Ron/Hermione but Ron/Hermione alone is just too angry and dysfunctional to work.

And especially this! Basically, I think each all has a way of balancing out the other two, so that any two by themselves would never really work out.

[(Anonymous)]

I usually question people's reasons for truly liking OT3s when they don't even like the dynamic of any combination of a threesome, because heck, how does any romantic relationship work when any of the party constantly fight each other? To me, a relationship needing someone (i.e. Harry) to be mediator or nexus in order for to work just doesn't compute, but I keep forgetting that threesome dynamic can be a little different from regular couples. So idk if I should drop it right now before someone comes along and tells me that their relationship is just like that and it's coming along just fine tyvm.

Still disagree on Ron and Hermione being too argumentative, angry and dysfunctional to each other even work, though. Ron can start off immature at times (can't blame the dude for feeling sidelined throughout his life) but he rarely stayed that way. He learned as he went in the series and he eventually tried to set things right. He has, on more than one occasion, been shown as caring and tender to Hermione, as well as being more vocal in his concern for others, especially in the later books what with brushing snowflakes off shoulders and holding each other through grief. For pete's sake, the reason Hermione kissed him at the final battle was because he was actually the only one to remember to free the house elves from the kitchens so they wouldn't die like Dobby did.

[(Anonymous)]

The reason that they were is because they really admired and appreciated the other's qualities while they were growing up and having adventures with Harry.

So you say, but I just didn't see that. Instead all I saw was, "They fight, so that means they love each other! And look, they do!" And they generally disagreed on...a lot of stuff, really, unless Harry was involved.

And yes, I know this is all totally subjective, but I just didn't see any chemistry. I mean, if you count fighting a lot as chemistry, then yes, it's there. But outside of fighting, they didn't really have much. Again, IMO, subjective, blah blah.

And I don't really ship ANY of the Trio in twos. The dynamics that any of the two of them have together is totally different from the dynamic the three of them have. IMO, they just work best together when it's the three of them. Hence why they are my die-hard OT3 for life.

But, eh, this is all coming from someone who ships literally none of the canon ships from the books. Except Dumbledore/Grindewald.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of this I've already answered in here (http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/731975.html?thread=463948359#t463948359), but I just wanted to say that in my defence for R/Hr, I never saw the whole fighting thing as an indicator of how much they loved each other, heh. I do think the reasons they had big fights was more indicative of what they felt for each other. (e.g. Their romantic-based jealousies.)

I get that the Trio as a whole is better than the sum of its parts, but that's when they're at their best. At their worst, it's clear when two of the three clash that things fall apart for all of them. They get irritable, resentful, and patronizing to each other. I don't think Harry's involvement does makes him the mediator between Ron and Hermione. Sometimes it's him that loses his cool or does something stupid while both Ron and Hermione together help him focus on the matters at hand. When they went off to get the basilisk fangs in the Chamber of Secrets, they did it for him because he's at the center of a lot of things, but it certainly proves they can get along and make decisions together as a unit outside of Harry's guidance.