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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-31 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1671 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1671 ⌋


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Re: At the end of the day, it's all Hamlet...

(Anonymous) 2011-08-02 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I use more of the copyright definition. Has this work been significantly changed (and to a lesser extent is it clear what the source material is)?

Does Lion King have elements in common with Kimba? YUP! Are those elements unique to Kimba? Eh, not so much. Lion on the rock - easy to get there from Bambi, prince of the forest on the rock; spirit of deceased in sky, seen that a million times; love interest/best friend - yawn. (The bug/vegetarian thing would be the most damning in my book as it is relatively unique.)

The problem is that 90% of the similarities seem to be found either in Hamlet or Bambi or are just generic.

The other thing is that you can rip something off/draw heavy inspiration from it without it being plagiarism. Antz and a Shark Tale came out mighty close to A Bug's Life and Finding Nemo (debatably Sinbad and Atlantis too), but while clearly not pure coincidence, they're different enough in execution that I wouldn't call it plagiarism.

There's the example I spoke of here about the similarity of Care Bears and My Little Pony, and as far as I know there's not any sort of controversy there: http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/732637.html?thread=464442333#t464442333 The fact is that those works have a ton in common, but I wouldn't say it's plagiarism, cut from the same cloth, yes, plagiarism, no.

Basically, my stance is that you can start with a kernel of an idea from somewhere else, but that doesn't mean the final product will be enough like it to be plagiarized. The way I see it, the similarities would be someone using the same phrasing a couple of times and maybe one or two similar plot points in a novel-length book. There are similarities, but the movie is different enough that it's a different beast.