[ SECRET POST #1676 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #1676 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Toriko]


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[Bubble Sisters, After School, Beast and T-ARA]


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[Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters]


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06.
[Frezned/YouTube]


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[Orc Stain]


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[Tiger & Bunny]


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[My Fair Lady]


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(Strawberry Shortcake's Berry Bitty Adventures)


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[Glee]


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19. [tb]


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20. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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21. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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22. [SPOILERS for Voyager]



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23. [SPOILERS for Agents of Cracked]



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24. [SPOILERS for A Dance with Dragons/A Song of Ice and Fire]



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25. [SPOILERS for A Dance with Dragons]



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26. [SPOILERS for A Dance with Dragons]



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27. [TRIGGER WARNING for self injury]



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28. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]



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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con and pedophilia]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #239.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fairhearing.livejournal.com]

But then I'm legitimately curious as to why a person would request a story if on a certain level they are not aroused by the acts in it.

You can't think of anything you might compare it to? Stuff that you're drawn to in fiction that would horrify you IRL?

There's rape fantasy, which a lot of women have, but there can be more mundane things, too. For instance, a lot of us like reading about characters like Harry Potter and A Little Princess being forced to live under the stairs and be mistreated horribly because we find it cathartic for a lot of reasons that we can't fully explain.

Not to mention that what arouses a person is rarely so easily defined. I'm sure for a lot of people who request those kinds of stories, it's not that they're attracted to children and therefore want to read about them, but just the fact that it's the worst, most evil sexual taboo in our society that makes GOING THERE an exciting act in and of itself. It's not the subject matter necessarily that's hot, but the breaking of the strongest taboo. The fact that it's SO FUCKING WRONG.

Think Victorian men creaming their pants over a flash of ankle back in the day. Did Victorian women somehow have the hottest ankles in history? No, it was the taboo that sexually excited them.

But you know, I don't much like going down this path because it leads to the idea that "you can like this kink only if you think of THIS while reading it and not of THIS," etc etc. I'm done judging people on the thoughts that go through their mind, or that they LIKE going through their mind, when they're fapping or preparing to fap, just because it's so scattershot and illogical and impossible for them to control.

Sexual fantasy as explored in fictional expression is a different realm, totally divorced from reality, and all research points to this, over and over and over.

[punishermax.livejournal.com]

First of all I appreciate that you are writing well reasoned responses for my questions. Second I'm not going to spend my days tracking down the people who requested this fics and beating them with internet rocks. My issue was that I personally found these prompts to be horrific and awful. My questions about psychology come not from me trying to bait you but from my actual ignorance of this stuff. I'm not a student of it, I took one college course, so I'm ignorant of it.

[fairhearing.livejournal.com]

Like I said, there's nothing wrong with being squicked. I'm hardcore squicked by 90% of what's currently en vogue in fandom, like incest. What I don't understand is people accepting and respecting the "safe fictional expression" of that and (for the most part) rape fantasy despite their squick, but doing a 180 when it comes to extreme de-aged kink porn.

Kink acceptance doesn't extend to what you can justify and understand, or even personally tolerate. A lot of people really seem to miss that.

[cafune.livejournal.com]

you don't understand why people might break their own "i accept this" for kids? kids are nearly universally sacred and taboo in most cultures. everyone has been a kid. there are people in fandom (probably in this very thread) who have children of their own. children are intensely personal and inspire intensely personal reactions, for the most part. someone reading a rape prompt might be able to skip over it, but someone reading a prompt calling for a doctor molesting his young patient will think of the children they love, who they trust with a stranger. children are regarded as innocent and untouchable. it should not be very surprising that most people will agree that other stuff is just a kink, but come down extremely hard on fic like in the op's secret.

[fairhearing.livejournal.com]

I understand the reaction of horror. I don't understand the hypocrisy of people who otherwise recognize that fictional expression is not indicative of reality.

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE ARE SQUICKED BY CHILD RAPE PORN??? Have I been?

[cold-river-blue.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE ARE SQUICKED BY CHILD RAPE PORN??? Have I been?

No, you haven't. You've been one of the most well-spoken, reasonable people in the thread, and although I disagree on a personal level with some of your points, I did want to say that I appreciate your taking the time to patiently reply in such a thorough manner to all of these comments.

[cafune.livejournal.com]

tl;dr what cold_river_blue
said. you haven't come off like that at all. i just. hmmmmmm, i guess i see it as understandable why people would backtrack on "all kinks are okay" for kids (albeit fictional ones), and you don't, and that's fine. hardly the gravest of cross purposes in this mess ;) sorry if i made you worry.