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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-07 04:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #1678 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1678 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2011-08-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously busting out the Oppression Olympics in a meta discussion about a fucking fictional story with fictional characters in which nobody was talking about anything related to SJ?

Did you seriously just do that?

Because that is one of the most derailing things I have ever seen done in a meta discussion, ever. Also, completely missing the point of people saying "Oppression Olympics" in the first place.

You know what is better than dropping the "Oppression Olympic"-bomb to try to score points off of me? Actually coming up with an intelligent reply.

Try it some time. You might learn something.

[identity profile] danaphilip.livejournal.com 2011-08-07 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If you are at least one of the same anon's as above, I believe it was you who started talking about Sirius Black like he was some kind of greater personal hero and took it out of literary context into "real world" concerns.

Can we at least agree that both Snape and Sirius had an equal helping of good and bad qualities that made them interesting, believable and redemptive characters? I'm not saying they're perfect, nor am I making excuses for their actions. They both had tragic pasts. Sirius dealt with it in slightly healthier ways (and I think he was the only one truly sorry for the things he did to him in school, so +1), but dismissing Snape's story as "not tragic enough" to compete is just...

childish.

[identity profile] ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com 2011-08-08 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
equal helping of good and bad qualities

IDK about them, but I don't know how you think a guy who was a bully in high school and then continues to act like a stupid teenager after 13 years of non-stop torture is equal to a guy who hung out with Magic Nazis and probably murdered people, bullied children as an adult, and was generally a huge douche to everyone even while being the "good guy" because he couldn't get over his obsessions.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-08 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
+1.

[identity profile] danaphilip.livejournal.com 2011-08-08 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. It took only this many comments before Godwin's Law was invoked again.

Hi, Godwin!

/In case you haven't already guessed, I have completely checked out of this discussion

(Anonymous) 2011-08-08 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
The point still stands even if you call them Death Eaters instead of Magic Nazis - although, of course "Magic Nazis" is exactly what Death Eaters are...


Man, this is embarrassing to read.

[identity profile] ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com 2011-08-08 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a Godwin when the Death Eaters are an actual Nazi metaphor, Christ.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-08 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Rowling herself admitted there were parallels between the Death Eaters and Nazis, so I think it's a warranted comparison in this case.