[ SECRET POST #1679 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1679 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 136 secrets from Secret Submission Post #240.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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Comments

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, then. You think that it's part of the definition of a Sue is that they steal a story that isn't about them, and I don't see any point in making that a requirement, since characters can be in stories that are all about them and still display all the annoying traits of any other Mary Sue.

Part of the reason I feel so strongly about this is that I think it could mislead young writers. If they hear "Oh, Mary Sues can only be characters written into fandoms that weren't about them before!" they'll think "Oh good! I'll just write original fiction and that way my characters can't be Mary Sues!!" They won't realize that the characters they're creating are going to be just as annoying and grating as any Mary Sue, because they're doing everything that makes Mary Sues awful.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, I agree to disagree with you hehe.

In the case you expose I would say their character isn't well made at all. "Your character is awful", somehow. But Mary Sue was named after a fanfiction and was named because it was in that fanfic, not because her personality but because she was better than THE CANON CHARACTERS.

Before that fanfic no one would say some characters (even if now they're seen as Mary Sue) were Mary Sue. They were annoying, and unrealistic and a freaking awful super powerful gals, but not Mary Sue.

That's my point: the term was created on a fanfic because that character was on a fandom work. Would you tell me that before that there wasn't "Mary Sue" characters in books/movies/etc.? Of course they were! Bad made characters, but not Mary Sue since that was made after fandom.


That's my opinion, at least! I'm not saying that's better, just that Mary Sue is a fandom term and should stay there.