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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-16 07:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #1687 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1687 ⌋


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[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's a very tough one for me, actually. Since it's not something I'd ever consider in a normal situation.

Do you know what you'd do? It's like those people claiming that they'd know they'd be a hero if they ever witnessed a crime. Nobody knows how they'd act in an extreme situation.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't the scenario that there was an abandoned baby on an island and it would die if you didn't take care of it? Not willingly leaving a child to die from exposure isn't really being a hero, it's just having compassion for another human being. When people try to stop crimes they are also putting themselves in danger of being harmed, but by taking care of a baby who would otherwise die you don't really have as much to lose

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
What is the point of this argument. Honestly, your fighting about something that is really far fetch from actually happening.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
That was the first time I had said anything on the subject. I was just confused about her reasoning with the crime stopping thing

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I'll bite: If you look at it realistically, being stranded is a pretty extreme situation. You managed not to drown, but you're probably distressed and exhausted from fighting for your life in the water. Very soon, you will have to find fresh water and food, or you'll die. Predators might be an issue. Expose to sun and dehydration might be an issue. You will need every inch of adaptability you need to even survive the first few days. So while it's not the same as having a gun pointed to your face, you're still in a fight-or-flight situation. Fact is you might pull yourself together and do what it takes to save yourself and/or the kid, but you might also just crawl up in a ball and give up.

Unless you'd assume being stranded is a sort of a holiday.

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
That is, if you actually wish to analyze a situation that isn't going to happen in a million years.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
What is the point of this community. Honestly, the subject matters are really a far fetch from actually happening.

(Answer: Entertainment value)

Invalid argument

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hardly. Some subjects that are discussed here can happen.

sign back in kallanda_lee

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:33 am (UTC)(link)

Re: sign back in kallanda_lee

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, because nobody could possibly disagree.

Re: sign back in kallanda_lee

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You look so dumb right now

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Do you really think she would go anon for that comment after all of this.

Re: sign back in kallanda_lee

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
You might be surprised to find that in fact this would not be a hard decision for most of the population.

Anyway, like I said before, I don't honestly think you would kill the baby, and I don't really care about your personal reasoning for it, or that "you're not a sweetheart." The fact that you were dumb enough to say it at all is the point I'm interested in. I mean, damn.

It's also pretty interesting that you're continuing to defend it.

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 03:32 am (UTC)(link)

It's also pretty interesting that you're continuing to defend it.


It's also pretty interesting that you are conveniently leaving out that the "stuck on an island with a baby argument" was actually raised as a point in defending an anti-abortion viewpoint. And damn, some of us feel pretty strongly about that. I also feel very strongly about being forced to take care of a child against my wishes, for any reason whatsoever.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Lol I also don't care what they were arguing with you about, I lold at "call me a murderer" for like a solid three minutes after I read it. I mean that is some prime-cut stupid. My friends and I read out loud your comment to each other in progressively stupid voices, it was great.

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Well, at least you were entertained. It seems you're enjoying your time of F!S ;)

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
My friends and I read out loud your comment to each other in progressively stupid voices, it was great.


Dude. You have issues. If you think by supposedly degrading people on the net makes you a better person, then so be it... I guess.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Your life must be mindbogglingly boring if that is the best you can do with your time.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
(I'm IMing them right now to tell them that you called "deciding to let babies starve" an "unpopular opinion" lolol)

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm flattered. Truly.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. You have issues. Bullying would be one of them.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
are you seriously in middle school or something

[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
leaving out that the "stuck on an island with a baby argument" was actually raised as a point in defending an anti-abortion viewpoint.

Good for you for sticking to your guns. This anon is crazypants, and the whole hypothetical is a bullshit disgusting way to make women admit they are nothing but incubators who should be happy to give up 9 months of their lives for the mere potential of another human (who is so much more important, obv).

Even aside from that, though, it's still a stupid, made-up question designed to make you look bad, even though in all actuality nearly every fucking person in that situation would be more concerned about their own survival than a strangers. Fucking human psychology, nobody wants to admit they'd be just as awful as the next person given the right context.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
even though in all actuality nearly every fucking person in that situation would be more concerned about their own survival than a strangers.

LOL A BABY IS NOT THE SAME THING AS A STRANGER

ARE YOU 12?

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ehm, yes it is...unless it is your baby, which was never specified in the hypothesis. It's just a stranger of a very young age.

[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
A baby is a stranger if you don't know it. Words have meanings, remember.

Do you really think humans don't leave babies to die every single day in every single country on the planet. Fuck deserted islands, how many starving orphans did you feed today? Are you heartless? Do you know anything at all about the way the human psyche works? Do you think that every single person in Nazi-occupied Europe, or every non-indigenous Australian in the 19th century, or every US settler was a horrible, awful person? Cause almost all of them stood by idly while babies were brutally killed, even those with the means to easily help one or two. Do you really think that in such a situation you would be different? Cause statistically speaking, it's incredibly unlikely.

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(Anonymous) - 2011-08-17 16:33 (UTC) - Expand

I remember seeing something similar.

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