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⌈ Secret Post #1690 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Birdcage]

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[Swan Princess]

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[Yugioh]

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[d.gray-man/katekyo hitman reborn]

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[Natsume Yuujinchou]

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[deus ex]

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[Beelzebub]

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[Leverage]

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[Jon Richardson]

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[Suburban Knights / TGWTG]

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[A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones]

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[MST3K -- Pumaman]

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[Switched at Birth]

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[Risen: Dark Waters]

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(Family Ties, Out of Practice, Everwood)

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[David Mitchell and Lee Mack]

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32. [SPOILERS for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy]

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33. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]

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35. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]

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36. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Planet of the Apes]

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37. [SPOILERS for Fringe]

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38. [SPOILERS for Puella Magi Madoka Magica]

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39. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse]

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40. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]

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41. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

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I don't think Grell feels like a female trapped in a man's body. I just think he likes calling himself a woman because he's eccentric that way.

Exactly WHY does a supernatural, non-mortal being have to have gender-identity issues? S/he can do whatever s/he wants.

Why is it that people will rail and rail and rail about visibility and representation for gay characters, and at the slightest indication will claim a [male] character is gay and will nail anyone who tries to write them as straight or interested in a woman to the wall, but they will make every single bullshit excuse their little fingers can squeeze out to keep from acknowledging genderqueer or, God forbid, trans characters. "Because he's eccentric that way"? Give me a fucking break.

If the evidence toward Grell being trans was switched with evidence toward Grell being gay, I'll bet you anything people would hold that information like a holy truth--as opposed to vehemently arguing whether "I want a sex change" really means someone is trans or not. Tell me, would you strain to find a way that "I want to have sex with men" could mean anything other than X character is gay?

You are all a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

Maybe if it was someone else, I could see it. I just personally don't believe that Grell thinks he should have been born female. Drag queens call themselves female, but most of them don't actually want a sex change. I feel like Grell is the same way. Can you not automatically assume that I'm nitpicking because "Muuuhh, no, he CAN'T be trans?"

And if we're setting aside the "trans" argument, then there's a shitton of evidence that he's gay, or at least bi. I STILL think he just does whatever the fuck he wants.

In a character interview, Grell says she wants a sex change

Oh? Where is this interview?

I had gotten it from here a while ago: http://bleachasylum.com/threads/14768-Kuroshitsuji-Character-Guide-English-Scanlation-(Part-2) but the file has since been taken down

If you google "kuroshitsuji character guide" you'll probably eventually find an active link

All right. Thanks for looking. :)

Nevermind, I found one: http://www.multiupload.com/0B82CKPO0S

I skipped right ahead to Grell's, because I was so curious...I guess I stand corrected. And now I love her even more.

Trans, but still eccentric. Oh, Grell. <3 Thanks for showing me this.

No problem, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

As someone has already said, Grell stated that she wants a sex change. But everyone can feel free to continue making justifications as to how "I want a sex change" doesn't mean Grell wishes she'd been born female, and how she's not actually transgendered, she's just ~eccentric.

Regardless, it just proves that representation is only an issue if the fangirls can get their rocks off to it. If it's representation for a group fans don't find attractive, well, that group can just go fuck themselves.

I didn't know that before, and I read Grell's personality very differently from "I want to be a woman." How do I explain this...? I felt like, as a supernatural being, Grell was beyond gender-identity issues, if that makes any sense. What bothered me, mainly, was that people seemed to be saying, "Oh, Grell calls himself 'she' all the time, so that must mean he's transgendered." Why did she have to be, just because of that?

But, as I have acknowledged, I stand corrected. I was rather pleased with that interview; she's still eccentric and does whatever the fuck she wants, transgendered or not.

Because the author says so.

Education: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/emerwen/47.jpg

in an obscure interview which not all fans are aware of.

and people may, in fact, decide to ignore it even if they know about it because they only count the manga or anime as canon. just like some harry potter fans may - and do - ignore all rowling's post-series interviews, including the now famous "dumbledore is gay!" one, because from their pov those are not canon.

so until that interview is published in a manga volume and - just to be on the safe side - that volume is translated into english or it's in some other way stated in the manga that grell is trans, it's not omghorribletransphobiawrong of people in the english speaking fandom to use male pronouns when they talk about grell.

If the author writes it (or speaks it) it is canon.

I shouldn't even have to explain that to you, or anyone else.

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