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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-20 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #1691 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1691 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 314 secrets from Secret Submission Post #242.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-21 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you so ignorant that you can't understand why people might be upset at a person's self-identified sexuality ignored and replaced with someone else's perception of what their sexuality ought to be? Do you really not understand how many people in this fandom and elsewhere in this fandom have been victimized by those sorts of attitudes IRL?

(Anonymous) 2011-08-22 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Being queer and and being open about it, yes I damned well do know what it's like.

However, my attitude isn't that I think John ought to be queer, so much as that there is room for ambiguity, and I think it would much more interesting if it turns out that he wasn't. It would be much more "comfortable" to me, but I won't love the character or the story any less if he does turn out to be straight.

Until then, he is up for literary analysis, speculation, and so on and so forth. Until then, I'm not going to chalk up it to shippery escapism like I end up having to do with 90% of my other fandoms.

Are you seriously comparing the discussion and analysis of a potentially straight character's sexuality to the oppression of gender and sexuality minorities?

Because if you are, screw you. And if you're another one of those whiny little prats whose heart bleeds for the straight, white, cis guys who keep bleating about how people call them gay and they aren't, and it's just like telling a gay person they're really straight! Screw you even more.

If I go by canon, I find it hard to assume John is anything. Romance and dating seem to be tertiary concerns, and he mostly just seems to care about all of his friends a lot platonically, no matter what gender they are.