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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-03 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #1705 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1705 ⌋


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Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 241 secrets from Secret Submission Post #244.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 3 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
03. http://i52.tinypic.com/2dh8s2u.png

[identity profile] countess-k.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I enjoy the fact that this secret covers all bases and leaves no room for wank. Other than that I have nothing more to say. I agree with you OP.

[identity profile] dgcatanisiri.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, totally. I hold no illusions that it will actually happen on the show, but the show's pretty much left no wiggle room in the fact that Cas is in love with Dean in his own angel-y fashion, in that he loves the fact that Dean is everything he loves and respects of humanity in a single (very pretty) package.

Though I will say that I'm certain that Dean isn't fully straight.

And, yeah, the crazy fans are enough to make me resist throwing myself all the way into the Supernatural fandom like I have with others. There are CRAZIES there, and not the good kind!

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
> literally has the world on his shoulders

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I hope he knows a good chiropractor.

[identity profile] captain-loki.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you I was just about to snark.

:D

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

[identity profile] ilikebinglee.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
You saved me, too :o)

(Anonymous) 2011-09-04 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
... touche.

(Unless I decide in my head!canon, Dean ends up being Atlas somehow. Wouldn't be the weirdest thing to happen)

(Anonymous) 2011-09-04 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
(chiming in to say I really like your maybe head!canon.)

[identity profile] checkerbloom.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't mind me, I'm just here for the pretty.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Dean is not "mostly straight". Dean is firmly hetero. He's become visibly upset by encounters with, and even the mention of homosexuality. I love the guy, but he's really enough of an asshole about being gay that it's clearly not his thing.

[identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
And that could be because he is straight, or it could be just because he was raised to be a macho man and to think being gay (or bi) was wrong. There is such a thing as internalized homophobia, and men are taught to think that being gay (which is assumed to make them more feminine) makes them weaker and is a bad thing. Dean could be read as straight, but he could also be read as a bi or gay man who was in denial.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I really doubt that the show put that much thought into his psyche. I'm bi and trans, and he really doesn't strike me as someone who's anything but genuinely uncomfortable with people who don't fit his mold.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care if people read Dean as 100% straight or whatever, but your argument doesn't really hold up. Tons of people who get really upset about homosexuality are actually repressed and closeted. How many politicians who are vocally against gay marriage have been caught in gay scandals? It's not just a coincidence.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
To draw attention away from themselves, yes. To make it obvious that there's no way you'd catch them in a compromising position with a member of the same sex, because that is BAD and WRONG and LET ME TELL YOU. So if any rumors start up, they can be nipped in the bud because they said specifically they don't swing that way.

But that's not the case with Dean, because Dean actually does not pursue romance with other men and if he did, because he's joined at the hip with Sam, there's no way it would have remained a secret this long.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-04 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Not pursuing romance or sexual encounters with men is not the same as being definitively straight. The fact that I don't seek relationships with men does not mean that I'm heterosexual, it means I'm in the closet, and let me tell you, if you're nice and cosy in your closet then you're quite happy to stay in there and not engage in any behaviour that has the slightest chance of outing you.

I prefer my SPN with angsty unrequited confused angel love on Cas' side and angsty bro love on Dean's, because I see Dean as straight and Cas as oblivious, but it doesn't mean that I can't see that the subtext can easily be read as D/C.

[identity profile] countess-k.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
And I thought there was no part of this secret that could be wank fodder.

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(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Pointing out how very stereotypically straight he is, is hardly wank fodder. Unless you're referring to the people jumping to tell me how I wrong I am.

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[identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll just leave this clip of the Dr Sexy scene here without comment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_tlAnd5VEw).

(Anonymous) 2011-09-03 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen it, thank you. That whole episode was so deliberately over the top meta, and it was ONE instance among many in which he's presented as nothing but straight, that it really doesn't count.

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(Anonymous) 2011-09-04 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I am so fucking sick of people who think he's in love with Castiel. Um, no. Were they close-ish? Sure. NOT IN LOVE. Pull your head out of your ass and get over it.

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[identity profile] shukivengeance.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
He's been firmly established as being canonically straight and nothing but. What do you expect though? Slash goggles are everywhere in fandoms and no two men are allowed to exist in the same room without "omg they're in love/fucking".

[identity profile] ryouseiteki.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)

I'm not nuts... NORLY. *twitches*
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[identity profile] soymade.livejournal.com 2011-09-04 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
You support the ship, you see evidence for it, but you don't think it would actually happen because of how the characters are. And you think some SPN fans are crazy.

Hahaha man, that is all a-ok. No need for secrecy.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-04 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
DEAR OP: Are you me? Because I think you might be. (Much love for avoiding wank with this secret too.)