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[ SECRET POST #1705 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1705 ⌋

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24. http://i52.tinypic.com/2uj4j00.png

A shame you gave it away for free, you could have been the next Big Thing.

I ship I Guy with his room mate. They are simply meant to be together.

He... he died? ;_;

I actually kind of see your point. It's the creator's business whether they want to tie up "loose ends" or not, and the creator really shouldn't concern themselves with what it does to people's fanfic.

But sometimes people feel it was done in a really unsatisfying way, or they just hate the ending, and that's just going to happen.

Seems like a lot of stories where people complained like this were stories were stories where it was complete without many of the things that were tied up.

But complete to whom? The fans or the author? Because I'm much more concerned with what the author thinks is complete than what the fic-writing internet masses think. Because that's the beauty of fanfic -- you can ignore the canon things that you want to. If people choose not to -- or if they use that as a way to couch what they really think (i.e.: I did not like that this happened, but instead of saying "I did not like that at all" I'm going to whine about how it affects my ~*abiilty*~ to write fanfiction"), I'm going to choose to not have an iota of sympathy for them.

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sistermagpie.livejournal.com - 2011-09-03 21:06 (UTC) - Expand

Ha! I love it.

This makes me think of Harry Potter fandom and how people whine about how JKR shouldn't have written the epilogue and should stop giving out information in interviews and the like because she should have ~given the series over to the fans instead and let them finish it.

I love how god damn presumptuous this is. Oh? So what if she created the story herself? Bitch, I wrote the definitive Hermoine/Luna story, don't you dare tell me they were not meant for each other!

Yeah I'm not fond of those complaints either.

Yes, how dare people interact with fiction differently than you.

I don't think people should feel entitled to more open-ended stories, but I don't think there's anything wrong with preferring them.

For me it really depends on the text in question.

The complainers generally do feel entitled to it, or at least most of their complaints read that way. They usually say stuff like "life sometimes has messy loose ends" or some variation of "tied up in a neat little package" and make the case that good authors leave things ambiguous and only hacks actually resolve shit.

The Standard Internet Phrase "u mad?" comes to mind, here, to be honest.

That ending isn't ambiguous enough, OP. :/

MTE. You killed him off in the end! You just closed canon. ):

On a cloudy October day Guy stared at the sky. Slate grey, it reminded him of the walls of the musty hospital he was Born in. The smell of ammonia always brought him back there, just as the haunting screech of a lonely seagull brought him here: The dock.

It was here that he had held the hand of Girl. She had smelled as she always had, of jasmine and apples. The true tragedy of his life, beyond all others and they were numerous, was that such a scent was uncommon. So much so that he could not be brought back to her as easily as he could the hospital or the dock. He stared out at the slate grey sky and it's earthly counterpart lapping at the wooden struts and realized that she could be his final thought.

He drew comfort from that.

He pulled out the gun. Father of Guy had brought it home from the Gulf. Some history surrounded it and, as Guy smiled, more would be written into today. Would it become an object of hatred? Would Father of Guy throw it away? Would he look at it and remember him? It was strange. Before you died, before you did yourself in, you opened up so many mysteries that you sort of wanted to live, just to see the end of them.

Guy raised the gun to his forehead. He stared at the Dock's edge.

His finger found the trigger

Girl sitting at the dock, feet in the water. A smile. A laugh.

His finger tenses.

A proposal. A refusal. Tears. Rage. Violence.

He slowly pulls.

A slamming sound. A scream. A splash.

Bang.

Somewhere a seagull calls.

Also he was hot.

NOW FUCK OFF.

Is it bad that I enjoyed that?

But... you could write all kinds of fanfiction about what happens before he dies.

Man these people need to learn from the Digimon Season 2 fandom. We had the worst asspull in the history of man: married couples out of characters that had never spoken to each other, the most derpy guy becomes an astronaut and the most brilliant girl becomes a housewife (not that there's anything wrong with that, but the kids had talked about their dreams pretty extensively and that wasn't one of them), massive earth-shaking social changes are completely glossed over... everything about everything had been wrapped up in about the stupidest way possible.

So then we just wrote fic about how the lame couples divorced immediately after the epilogue, said girl was just taking a break as an engineer while her kids were young and went right back to it, etc., and took the stories from there ;p

Though yeah I guess "rocks fell; they all died" would make that harder.

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masterfedora.livejournal.com - 2011-09-06 01:47 (UTC) - Expand

I like this secret very much. :D

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(Anonymous) - 2011-09-04 01:09 (UTC) - Expand

Urk. I have bad memories of some manga/anime fans starting petitions and email campaigns to try to get the creator of the manga/anime to alter the current storyline (who was dating who, who died, who lived, etc.) to suit their preferences 'cause they weren't happy with the storyline. And that what this secret reminds me of. Bleh on them both. :-( I don't get it. Just ignore what canon upsets you, go AU, and go on with your hhjj fic and fanart.

Chances are people are always going to disagree on every work of fiction out there (and even a lot that aren't fiction). But to give you an example, OP, if a story was about Mark, Liz, Jenny, Tony, Peter, Mary, Steve, Ruby, Barbara and Mike, and the author ended a long book by pairing every one of these characters up (with someone else from the main cast, no less), wouldn't it feel odd to you? Particularly if half the pairings were barely even hinted at, much less developed?

Or, to use a non-romance example, because it happens in romance, too, what if a character uses a freakishly large weapon to fight with, despite being frail-looking/small in stature? Chances are most people aren't going to desperately want an answer as to why the character can lift that weapon because, if the story and universe are written well and entertainingly enough, it doesn't need to be explained and can even be a source of humor because you don't expect [weak-looking person] to be able to do that. Now what if the author goes out of his/her way to write a lengthy explanation about the mystical forces at work that allow [character] to swing that weapon? Wouldn't that feel odd? Particularly if nobody else gets an exposé on why they do [X] feat?

So yeah. TL;DR, I do think there are definitely instances where authors get into the habit of wrapping everything up to an odd degree, and that's what a lot of people notice.

There needs to be a Kink Meme for this story I have so many dirty kinks about this man.

http://i.imgur.com/LkS4c.png

No, it's part of this notion of superiority, that somehow liking tragic fiction or fanfic - or writing it - gives one more intellectual cred and makes them "deeper" than enjoying a "happily ever after." There's nothing wrong with sad or tragic fiction - but it's no better as a whole than happy or satisfyingly-ended stories.

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