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07. http://i.imgur.com/p7FPQ.jpg

You know you're getting old when you just want to take them home, give them a hug, a pat on the head, then make them some muffins to cheer them up. Oh god I wanna be Team Rocket's mom!

you do know they'd let you...

I wanted to do all that even when I first watched the show at the age of 9. Especially when Giovanni treated them like crap. Poor Jessie and James. :(

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(Anonymous) - 2011-09-13 01:18 (UTC) - Expand

Isn't there some weird thing about them that they are actually only teenagers? That makes me sad if they are. I just want to give them a hug.

when it comes to anime, i think the best thing to do is just ignore the characters' ages. they're usually at least 5-10 years younger than they look/act.

(Anonymous) - 2011-09-13 00:25 (UTC) - Expand

There was discussion on a previous post on how Jessie and James were intended to be 15.

Which is odd. I have an official Pokemon booklet listing the first 151 Pokemon and it says they're 18. Not much of a difference, but yeah.

I thought they did start being competent in the new season, though?

From what I gather that lasted only a few episodes. Now they're back to comic relief. =(

(Anonymous) - 2011-09-14 04:46 (UTC) - Expand

I've always felt bad for Team Rocket. Like the first commenter, I just wanna have them over for dinner, hug them, be their friend, etc. I always wondered why the heck they worked for Giovanni if they weren't good at what they did and always fucked up...was there a reason they didn't just move on to something else?

I kind of always figured Team Rocket was like a mafia sort of thing. Once youre in, its your ass if you try to leave.

Or maybe thats just my headcanon.

kallanda-lee.livejournal.com - 2011-09-13 00:36 (UTC) - Expand

bestworsthings.livejournal.com - 2011-09-13 06:14 (UTC) - Expand

blackjackrocket.livejournal.com - 2011-09-13 07:12 (UTC) - Expand

I think at some point they must have been good at what they did, since they were wanted villains in the beginning of the show. Then they got obsessed with Pikachu and the whole thing went south.

(Though I also agree that you can't just leave Team Rocket.)

I think it's strange because actually, before the Anime-timeline they are said to be at least a bit successful.

So yeah, I feel sorry for them, too. Giving them a hug... or a hot soup... or cookies...

i'd just be happy with any form of character growth, tbh. the other characters have grown over the years (even though they are all presumably the same age as when the anime began), while Team Rocket are still the same Pikachu-grabbing morons that they've been since the very beginning. which is annoying, because i think they are the ones who could benefit the most from some more development.

Honestly, you'd think they would have let them retire/changed villains by now. I mean, they've changed companions....how many times now? It just makes sense for them to change...and hell. Even the *games* have moved on to different teams.

That was the reason I stopped watching... around the beginning of the third season.

Me too.

I quit watching the anime during DP but HOLY MESS that artwork is AWFUL. The animators have really gotten lazy with the characters, that looks so sloppy.

How awful.

It's like watching Wile E. Coyote, Tom, and Sylvester. They can't ever win because the chase is the point, but after a while you start going, "Man, I wish they'd just win." Although yeah, Team Rocket's situation is a little different. IDK what ended up happening to them, but I'd like to think they quit TR and ended up happy on a beach in Maui.

Funny you should mention Wile E. Coyote, when you look at Chuck Jones's rules for the Coyote, they could nearly all fit Team Rocket (with some minor tweaking for genre in a couple of cases).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wile_E._Coyote_and_Road_Runner#Laws_and_rules

Especially 3, 9, and 10 (The Coyote[Team Rocket Must get That One Damn Pikachu] could stop anytime—IF he were not a fanatic, The Coyote is always more humiliated than harmed by his failures[Team Rocket Blasting Off Again], The audience's sympathy must remain with the Coyote[Team Rocket Deserve Cookies and Hugs].

Team Rocket made the show for me when I was younger.....James was my first anime crush too....

I miss the days when I used to RP Pokemon characters, follow the episodes, draw fanart and spend hundreds of hours on the games. :( I miss when the show had continuity, character backgrounds, in-jokes that were funny etc. I wanted to *be* Jessie, meet my James and go on adventures to capture rare Pokemon, now I can't even stand episodes past season 5 or whatever it was when I stopped watching.....but I still miss it a lot!

Hmm. I always felt that they had some real character growth in Sinnoh, but since I haven't had a chance to see any of Unova I don't know if it carried over. But in Sinnoh Jessie really got a chance to shine with Pokémon Contests, Meowth became a master ramen chef, and James... I don't remember what James got to do. It's been a while... I feel like he didn't have a special thing but he got to grow as a person, although I reserve the right to be wrong!

Haha, opinions and all that, though. =)

No, you're correct, they beefed them up in Sinnoh. By the time they get to Unova, they're actually incredibly competent. I missed most of Sinnoh, so I was horribly confused when I started watching Black & White, and they were actually doing a good job of setting up mischief and gathering info. They even work directly under Giovanni and he trusts them to do so. They treat it like this really super-serious secret spy stuff.

Someone here said that changes, but so far I'm 25 episodes in and they haven't reverted yet so that's basically an entire season's worth of Competent Team Rocket

Personally, I liked them better as idiots whose bumbling nature drives the plot, like in the 4th Pokemon Movie - they're not useless, stuff they do is actually important in that movie even if they're messing up.

I've been told that they do succeed when they try to do things that aren't evil.

I haven't watched the show in years, though, so I don't know how true it is.