[ SECRET POST #1714 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1714 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

People the Japanese accept: other Japanese

People the Japanese will not accept, but will like reasonably well: skinny white people

People the Japanese generally dislike: other Asians, Hispanics

People the Japanese hate: black people

At least you're not at the bottom of the list?

[(Anonymous)]

Accurate comment is accurate.

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

Really? I think Japan has way more bile for other Asians than for blacks just because of, you know, WWII. Blacks generally aren't seen well because of a) Japanese beauty standards emphasizing pale skin and b) imported racism from the West. But they don't have so much personal interaction/history with blacks. Japan has way more tense history with China and Korea.

[(Anonymous)]

uh...as a black person living in japan, i haven't had any sort of problem with people hating me for my skin color. i even *gasp* have real japanese friends. and get *gasp* asked out on dates. by *gasp* real japanese men. oh the horror!

[(Anonymous)]

lol ok. as another poc in japan i don't know whether you're making this up or whether you don't know serious male interest from what is basically trolling.

diff anon

[(Anonymous)]

Well you do sound like a giant asshole, so maybe it's just you that nobody wants to date.

Re: diff anon

[(Anonymous)]

different anon from above, but they're not assholes for describing what is a pretty common scenario.

Re: diff anon

[(Anonymous)]

Nope nope, anon is an asshole for calling the first anon too naive to understand the way things are just because her experience has been different, dismissing her claims, and assuming everyone has the same experience as her :)

Re: diff anon

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

uhh it's the GUYS who are assholes, and yes, it happens ALL THE TIME. anon who mentioned the trolling is telling the truth.

same anon

[(Anonymous)]

yep, you're right. my japanese husband has just been trolling me all these years. he is clearly repulsed by my dirty black skin and hates me with every fiber of my dirty black being. same goes for every japanese person who has ever spoken to me and befriended/dated me.

in other words: fuck off. yes, there might be those who are racist against those who aren't japanese. but the average japanese person is *gasp* friendly. the average japanese person doesn't hate black people at all. they might be interested or even confused by our appearance, but i'm not going to be offended by that just because they aren't used to those who aren't japanese. it's that sort of bullshit stereotyping that makes everyone look bad. "oh don't worry about going to japan, they're all racists who hate blacks". pfft fuck that shit. i'm not claiming there aren't people who haven't had problems with racism, but it's not as widespread as westerners seem to claim it is.

See OP

[rayiroth.livejournal.com]

See OP. Simply because there are assholes on FS claiming that someone's Japanese friends and spouse MUST BE WITH SOMEONE OUT OF TROLL it doesn't mean everyone on FS are assholes or that we all think that this person's love were REALLY TROLLED.

Similarly, simply because there are some vocal assholes suggesting that you must be hated in Japan for being Korean it doesn't meant that everyone in Japan has to hate you or you can never belong.

It just means... There are assholes in every group, really.

[(Anonymous)]

Obviously a lying white person.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah right

they'll never fuck you hon

hth

[(Anonymous)]

That's like most Asian countries though wth

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Glad I grew up in the US. Lots more Asian solidarity when they can't tell any of us apart.

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately, as someone who is black and who visited Japan, this is pretty true.

Japan might have more bile for other Asians but they can't always identify them whereas I had people cross the street and switch seats on trains to avoid me, but never the white people.

[(Anonymous)]

That's awful :(

[(Anonymous)]

I feel so bad for POCs who come to Japan with big eyes and hopes and dreams to have fun here that could very well come true but will probably be marred by racism. Not the casual racism most any foreigner will experience in Japan, but the stuff you're talking about that white foreigners will not. I (white European) was told by a Japanese person to be careful when I'm in Roppongi because "there are a lot of foreigners"--and I really don't think they were talking about the TGIFridays staff passing out coupons on the street to tempt people inside.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm guessing you don't understand much about Japanese culture then? They aren't avoiding you because you're black (well, some might be), they're avoiding you because you're foreign and they don't want to be "confronted" by you with something they don't understand (e.g. a foreign language they don't understand, a question thy can't answer, etc).

I'm white and it's very common for people to avoid sitting next to me on public transport, or move to another seat when I sit next to them, or to "politely" turn away and pretend to be busy so that I don't speak to them.

It's not that they're trying to be rude. They just don't want to be shamed in front of someone who is ~different~ by not being able to understand you. It's a part of the whole 'Japanese pride' shtick.

[ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com]

I'm white and I've had people cross the street or switch seats to avoid me. In my area, it really does seem to be sort of generalized racism against all foreigners as opposed to any one race getting it worse.

[(Anonymous)]

Here is proof they don't like Black People. Look at what they did to this man! :P

[cactuar-tamer.livejournal.com]

This isn't as broadly true as people seem to think. And so many people seem to think it's true. I actually had someone from an exchange program in high school tell me that I didn't want to go to Japan, because it was "Hard enough for white people. Here, have a nice South American country instead."

Yet I can't be the only darker-complected person who has had a perfectly wonderful stay in Japan. In my case, for what is now a little over three years, not counting my time in college, where I did a semester here and one in Korea.

People don't do the changing-seats-on-the-train thing or the avoiding-you-in-the-street thing that often at all, and has been pointed out before it happens to white people too. Sure, people tend to think sterotypically, assuming I'm from India and sometimes Africa instead of "The West," and sometimes they'll assume I like hip hop, but that stuff isn't horrible, and I hasten to point out that I was dealing with the exact same stuff in America.

Sure, I'm not exactly having a ton of dating success here, but I've got major social awkwardness issues and I wasn't raking in the dates back in America either. It is really not any worse for me over here than it is for the other Gaijin.

And in a lot of ways, I'm just accepted. Random Japanese people have come up to me and asked for help with the trains, or for driving directions. I have Japanese friends in the community who like to hang out with me and treat me like a real member of the various groups I'm in. It's very easy to talk to to people, and while I haven't had ultimate success with the dating thing, it's actually going pretty well for the effort I put into it. But then I guess I'm just too dumb to know I'm not being trolled by, like, everyone around me. Any day now, someone's going to come up to me and say it was all a social expiriment.