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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-16 08:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #1718 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1718 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[FF7]


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[Home Improvement]


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[Thor]


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[The Borrower Arrietty]


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[Eerie Indiana]


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[SPN]


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[The Secret Garden]


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[Alex Rider]


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[Muppets]


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[Air Bud]


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[Beauty and the Beast TV series]


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[poupeegirl]


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[Cybersix, Ouran High School Host Club, Cowboy Bebop, Mulan, Alanna, Monstrous Regiment, Pitch Black, Leviathan, Hourou Musuko]


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[America's Next Top Model - Cycle 11]


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[high school of the dead]


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[Rescue Special Ops]


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[Friends with Benefits]


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[Merlin]


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[Absolutely Fabulous]


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49. [TRIGGER WARNING for depression, suicide]

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50. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]



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51. [TRIGGER WARNING for violence, bullying]



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(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really think so. He wasn't written exactly as I would have wanted Loki to be written, but just because I would have preferred a little more mischief/a little less emo doesn't mean I think they did an overall bad job.

The deleted scenes added more, but I won't say outright that they should have been included because I think they would have made his characterization even more murky. Sometimes it's hard to figure out what they want us to think Loki's intentions were.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Director says Loki does love Thor and is not preternaturally disposed to evil, but his love for pranks and mischief making makes him dangerous, and that, like Laufey, he's skilled at playing people.


I have no idea how that's supposed to be obvious from the movie, but that's what he said in the commentary!

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, I don't know. Loki is kind of a mess of conflicting levels of sincerity and insincerity. It's obvious that Loki goads Thor into riding off to Jotunheim, but it's not obvious whether Loki intends for Thor to actually stand down and return home with his tail between his legs or to do exactly what Thor did and start a bloody battle.

There's the deleted scene before the coronation. He's all "I've been looking forward to this day as long as you" which might be true, insofar as he means ruining it. So that's insincere, even if it's true. But then he's like "ilu bro" and I think we're supposed to take that sincerely. But if he sincerely loves Thor, jealousy or not, his behavior towards him later is hard to excuse if he's not predisposed to evil.

I've heard what the director and actor say, and I have a pretty good handle on what I think his motivations are, but there is a lot of murkiness. So I get the secret saying he's badly written, even if there's something holding me back from agreeing 100%. Maybe I just like that I have to question so much, when the character is supposed to be a trickster.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think part of it might be that he's supposed to be really hard to figure out. Fits in with the whole Liesmith part of him.

NGL when I first watched the movie I was convinced everything he did and said was insincere except for that scene in Jotunheim when he confronted Laufey.

Then it turned out he planned to kill Laufey and I was like "... ohh this guy just got a lot more confusing to figure out :/

Also he started crying like halfway through their final confrontation, so that makes him even more confusing...