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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-17 03:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #1719 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1719 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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xenoglossy: (Cargo! // world of adventure)

[personal profile] xenoglossy 2011-09-17 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: the second prompt, I have a hard time imagining Ariel, of all people, teaching girls to be prim and proper. Cinderella and Snow White come from a different era with different values, but Ariel is a full-on 1980s/90s Rebellious Princess type, in my opinion.

And I've always thought that the people who go "Oh, she has to give up her voice in order to be appealing to a man! It teaches girls that boys will only like them if they shut up and don't have opinions!" were kind of missing the point there. Eric initially falls in love with her in part because of her voice, and her inability to speak is an obstacle to the relationship rather than helping it. Even once they get past that, he almost ditches her for a girl who does have a voice. Who, yes, is a sea witch and is doing some kind of witchy hypnotism thing, but still.

tl;dr I always liked Ariel as a kid and am biased, but I didn't come away with the impression that her lack of voice was meant to be a good thing.

(Also, I haven't watched Snow White in ages, but with Cinderella you could make an argument for her being pretty proactive and resourceful and going after what she wants despite being told that she can't have it. Yes, what she wants is to go to the ball and dance with the prince, but she's still not exactly sitting there and waiting for him to come to her.)
xenoglossy: (d[di:] // Persephone)

[personal profile] xenoglossy 2011-09-17 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
... and I just wrote way too many words about Disney movies on F!S. I make the best life choices!

[identity profile] fickletastictot.livejournal.com 2011-09-17 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I like and agree with your post though. :D

Hurrah to you!
xenoglossy: (House of Leaves // oh shi—)

[personal profile] xenoglossy 2011-09-17 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I'm glad it made sense.

[identity profile] hikari87.livejournal.com 2011-09-17 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Writing about Disney is always a good life choice :D

[identity profile] wake-the-dragon.livejournal.com 2011-09-17 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Your post is great and you should feel great.

[identity profile] shinebunny.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
"It's she who holds her tongue who gets a man..."

The whole point is that losing your voice was a BAD thing for Ariel to do! But she made a mistake because she was young and in love. She listened to Ursula's bad advice and bought into that but that is what girls do. In the end she got her voice back and things turned out okay.

I like all the badass princesses but I don't feel like there's much point in bashing Snow and Cinderella. OP, go on with your business and ignore the haters.

(This comm sounds great, though. Do want.)