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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-19 08:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #1721 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1721 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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OP

(Anonymous) 2011-09-20 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
No need to get hostile and ad hominem here, please. No I am not the same person who "raged" against whatever, I haven't made any secrets in a long time.
And yes, Order-babies from the first war also bother me. But as I see it, it's different with Tonks, because, as far as I remember, she is one of the TWO aurors left on the side of the Order. She's not just any girl who got herself pregnant, she has a lot of responsibility. Not getting rid of her baby in that situation makes her seem very unlikeable, and it's a shame that Rowling decided to do that to her character.

Re: OP

[identity profile] heartsyhawk.livejournal.com 2011-09-21 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I apologize, I didn't really intend to come off as hostile...it just frustrates me that a lot of people hate on female characters (and real women too) when they have a baby at an "inappropriate" time, even if its something the woman wanted and chose.

I do understand your point, but I don't think keeping the baby made her any less unlikeable. I've always thought people who have kids in tough times are expressing a lot more hope that the world will get better than those who'd rather wait until it does and I think that might be more along the lines of what Rowling was going for: that you have faith that things get better even in the darkest times. And yes Tonks was one of the last fighting for the Order, but Frank, Alice, Lily and James were directly defying Voldemort as well. And when Harry and Neville were conceived some time in late 1979 Voldemort was at his most powerful. Lily and James were only nineteen when they got pregnant with Harry and they were major players in the order and Frank and Alice were some of the last surviving aurors in their Order too (remember the Order took a LOT of casualties in the first war). It wasn't necessarily a well-advised time for either of those couples to procreate either especially once they had to retreat into hiding to protect their sons because of the prophecy, and yet nobody says much of anything about how Lily and James should have been a little more careful with birth control or how Frank and Alice REALLY didn't think that one through (as they were older and should logically be more responsible than a pair of 19 year old newlyweds and BOTH of them were critical aurors who Voldemort had a grudge against).