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fandomsecrets2011-09-24 03:43 pm
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Also, that arisishirou is joking right? About how Japanese people won't play Western games? Because..
http://kotaku.com/5428547/modern-warfare-2-spiked-xbox-360-console-sales-in-japan
Dun dun dunnnn~ Modern Warfare 2, an FPS, did quite well in Japan (and it's not KAWAII UGUUUUU either). She's only looking in from god knows what point of view, and not really taking into account what actual GAMERS really think.
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You do get that you're proving my point with this article, don't you? E.g. popular Western games don't sell at anywhere near a comparable rate in Japan as popular Japanese games do in the West, and that the 360 sales are pitiful and anti-360 bias is rampant?
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Popular Japanese games sell in the West? Tell that to Tales, tell that to Bust-a-Move, tell that to -gasp- the Mega Man series, tell that to Monster Hunter etc. The only current success for Japanese games in the west right now are fighting games.
And comparing the two markets together when one market has the advantage of being a niche market, and the other being mainstream? Smart. Western games are a niche in Japan, and Japanese games are a niche in the West. The difference here is that there are more people in the Western niche market than Japan. Of course sales for Japanese games in the West are going to be better - THEY HAVE MORE PEOPLE.
Also, do note that the WEST - not just America. Until recently, Hong Kong and most of South East Asia have been playing the North American region of English games,and this counts for more sales under 'Western' whereas the sales for the Japanese version is only accountable for in Japan. Of course it's going to look smaller in comparison - less people are buying it. The fact that it sells, though only in a few thousands, is already an impressive feat, considering its smaller market in Japan.
If we want to get 'racist' with this, then you do notice that the PSP is DEAD in the West right? Same sentiment. Same hate. It's not just ~Japanese gamers~ hating on the West.
(Also, anti-360 is not just a J-fandom thing. If anything, I've seen Westerners hate on it more than the Japanese, with the RRoDs, monthly online subscription fees and all that. Sides, most of the Japanese people don't actually hate on Microsoft do they? With it being one of the few OSes supporting direct Japanese typing)
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In fact, "DON'T SELL" isn't an argument I ever made. It doesn't even appear in my comments. You made it up completely, because one Kotaku article about games sales is all you've got to back up your argument.
But, in attacking even a made-up argument, you're still completely wrong:
(Source (http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/))
Sales of MW2 in Japan - 420,000 units
Sales of MW2 in the Americas (not the "West", just the NA region) - 13 million
To be sure, THEY HAVE MORE PEOPLE, as you say, in the NA region - about three times more - but not over thirty times more. And MW2 is one of the best-selling console FPS games in Japan, ever. Look at Gears, or Halo, or even Resistance - their Japanese sales are absolutely pitiful.
But I see the rest of this is backpedalling about Japan being a "niche" market, so it doesn't really matter if it only sells a few copies! You forget, this is the same "niche" market that moved two million units of FFXIII. They certainly do have a considerable market share. It has plummeted in recent years, but it was as high as 50% of the global game market as recently as 2002 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9159905.stm).
Popular Japanese games sell in the West? Tell that to Tales, tell that to Bust-a-Move, tell that to -gasp- the Mega Man series, tell that to Monster Hunter etc. The only current success for Japanese games in the west right now are fighting games.
Er, yes, that's exactly what I said. Japanese games - like DMC, RE, MGS, Pokemon, Mario, etc. - do sell in the West. But the opposite is simply not true. So... you're still proving my entirely correct point that Western game sales are pitiful in Japan compared to the sales of Japanese games in the West, which is what I actually said, instead of DON'T SELL, which is something you made up entirely.
Seriously, try to calm down. The "kawaii" comment was a bit snarky, but I'm making objectively true claims about the respective gaming markets. I know there are a tiny minority of Japanese gamers who play Western games - I'm friends with a ton of them. They're completely awesome people. And not everyone who likes JRPGs is a weeaboo - I'm a big Atlus fan myself.
I can pull actual games sales stats all day if you want, and all you seem to have is one Kotaku article that actually proves my point (that 360 sales are pitiful and even MW2 - one of the top-selling games of all time - didn't move that many units comparably in Japan).