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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-25 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #1727 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1727 ⌋


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Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, obviously you were there and know exactly what people were thinking and knew. Come on, Hitler didn't become chancellor by opening a concentration camp. He started off as somewhat normal, perceived as the same brand of crazy as those right-wing anti-immigration politicians in the US.

By the time when the shit hit the fan Germany was a totalitarian state in which a small political joke would get you arrested. Unless you have lived in North Korea until recently you have no idea what that looks like. Did the Germans look the other way in a big way? Sure. Did plenty of them commit plenty of intentional evil? Sure.

But it's not a uniquely German phenomenon, nor is it something that equally applied to Germans. The White Rose people are not comparable in any shape or form to Mengele.

And your attempt to pin evil as something uniquely German is quite awful. In Hungary 100,000s of Jewish people got send to German concentration during a time where merely 200 German soldiers were stationed there.

Meanwhile in China the Japanese killed millions of civilians. Or to quote a Japanese WWII veteran: "Every Japanese soldier in China raped. Anyone who says different is a liar."

The point the OP might go for is one that you can witness on every battlefield, every time you purchase something that was made by child labor, during every genocide and the silence during every genocide. Evil is not the other. Evil is something that in the end is universally human, something that can be committed with intent, by group pressure, by looking the other way, by purposefully ignoring uncomfortable realities.

Everyone can be evil and you, as someone who is currently reading this on a device that was manufactured in a country where they have executed thousands of political dissidents, are not sitting in the ivory tower of righteousness. You can call other people out on their evil but please beware of the splinter in your own eye. Because the number one thing that allows people to ignore their own darkness is the belief that they are in the light.

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(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You win.

Can we all just stop pretending that the others are "the bad guys" and that we are the "good guys"? That "us vs them" mentality is what keeps fucking us all over every time humanity could have made real progress.

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(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Excellent comment.

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[identity profile] lemon-m.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
You deserve applause for this comment

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[identity profile] deadtree.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
this is an excellent comment.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2011-09-26 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] hopeandmemory.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
this comment is awesome. thank you for bringing up the other examples, too.