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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-25 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #1727 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1727 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no shit Sherlock, I write slash porn. That's... pretty much what I write. I don't really know how I'm supposed to put female characters in there, even if I did care to do so.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
ok, but someone pointing out something more along the lines of "hmmm interesting that you choose to only ever write about (probably white) dudes/dudes fucking" is slightly different (and valid as an initial question-- we'd sure ask the same about a movie company who never had female characters, wouldn't we?) from "WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT A GIRL IN THIS ONE FIC!!" which is how you seemed to present it originally

(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
If they exclusively made gay porn videos, I doubt anybody would be able to justify asking that question. Although it's nice how you immediately decided to accuse her of racism.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
i didn't accuse anyone of racism, are we getting a little defensive? i said probably, because of the vast majority of slash in general (not just potentially from that anon) is white guys.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

are we getting a little defensive?

You're fucking vile. Suggesting something and then claiming total innocence and accusing the other person of protesting too much when they point out your implications. GTFO of my social justice movement.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-26 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
nah it's pretty typical for people to read into something and then act like they're being personally attacked

example:

person a: man white privilege sucks
person b: WHY ARE YOU SAYING I'M RACIST JUST BECAUSE I'M WHITE

also i wasn't aware someone could own a movement, wow, can i buy one?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-25 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Movie companies are not random chicks on the internet writing amateur gay porn in their spare time, jesus FUCKING christ.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-26 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
no, REALLY?

they both make choices about what stories to tell, tho, sooooooooooooooooo

(Anonymous) 2011-09-26 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
so unless you're writing about 40 year old black lesbians in wheelchairs, then you're probably racist, sexist, ableist, ageist, an ally of the patriarchy and part of the problem with the whole world and just don't even try to talk yourself out of it.

ok ¬¬

(Anonymous) 2011-09-26 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
not what was said, and you know it

if you have a large number of stories, with a large number of different characters in each one, but EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER in EVERY STORY is white, male, able-bodied, etc., THAT is something that might be worth examining.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-26 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
da

I'm going to address the bit about only writing men because it's the most relevant to the discussion, but...this person is writing porn. For people who are attracted to men, specifically men getting it on with each other, to get off on. I mean if they were bashing all of the female characters in the vicinity it'd be one thing, but world-building and deep evaluations of relationship and psyche probably are not their priority here, so I don't see the problem of writing only slash if you're not pretending it's some sort of all-encompassing masterpiece?

I mean you really shouldn't be telling people, women included, what they can and cannot do with their sexuality here. :/

(Anonymous) 2011-09-26 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
OP of the original subthread here- sheesh, I fall asleep and suddenly I'm racist, sexist, ableist, and whatever else? Nice to know, especially considering one of my main pairings is interracial, but whatever.

And yeah, you hit the nail right on the head here. I write porn. I write it because it entertains me, and if someone else wants to fap to it, then hey, I made someone else happy too. I'm not trying to focus on fighting for rights or righting some ancient wrong- I just want to fap.

And you know what? On the odd occasion that I actually do want to write some serious business, I put female characters in there. Because it wouldn't make sense if they just suddenly disappeared from the scene in a story that was supposed to include the full cast.

But hey, all you other anons? Thanks for proving my point, you lot really will jump on any excuse to be a bunch of butthurt haters.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody considers any writer strange for only writing het.

Go ahead. Show me I'm wrong.