[ SECRET POST #1744 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1744 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[tinker tailor soldier spy]


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03.
[Pokemon]


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04.
[Disgaea 2]


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05.
[Reborn]


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06.
[Yahtzee/Cinema Snob]


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07.
[Fruits Basket]


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08.
[Sherlock]


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09.
[Teahouse]


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10.
[Glee]


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11.
[Law & Order: Special Victims Unit]


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12.
[Jem]


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13.
[Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII]


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14.
[Sherlock (BBC)]


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15.
[Kingdom Hearts]


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16.
[Reba]


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17.
[South Park/Black Dagger Brotherhood]


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18.
[Society]


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19.
[Paris Hilton/Baccano!!]


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20.
[Paranoia Agent]


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21.
[HIMYM]


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22.
[American Beauty]


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23.
(Phantom of the Opera/Ramin Karimloo/Hadley Fraser/Sierra Boggess)


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24. [repeat]


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25.
[Card Captor Sakura]


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26.
[Steve Jobs]


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27.
(adventure time)


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28.
[Supernatural]


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29.
[Owl City]


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30.
[Game of Thrones]


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31.
[The Phantom of the Opera 25th Anniversary edition]


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32.
[Glee]


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33.
[HP]


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34.
[HP]


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35.
[Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality]


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36.
[HP]


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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for miscarriage, depression]

[HP]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 094 secrets from Secret Submission Post #248.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 (yes, AGAIN) - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

Funny. I felt the EXACT opposite. I always understood that Erik/Christine was a problematic (yet interesting) dynamic. But this Raoul, to me, was somehow a class A, manipulative dick, and I wanted her to dump him ASAP, while this version of the Phantom seemed particularly sad and sympathetic. YMMV

[dangerousdame.livejournal.com]

Out of curiosity, how was Raoul more manipulative than the Phantom?

[(Anonymous)]

he's not, but, he's in the position of privilege so has to live up to higher standards

[dangerousdame.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure I understand. What standards does he fail?

[(Anonymous)]

he fails at not being a manipulative dick
the phantom also fails at not being manipulative but as he's the oppressed rather than the privileged he's cut more slack for it

[dangerousdame.livejournal.com]

And where does he manipulate her?

[(Anonymous)]

he manipulates her into going along with the whole PONR plan, she's twisted every way, by raoul as well as the phantom, he doesn't believe her or listen to her fears or feelings. from the very start in fact he doesn't listen to her, because he's a privileged dick.

[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

he manipulates her into going along with the whole PONR plan, she's twisted every way, by raoul as well as the phantom, he doesn't believe her or listen to her fears or feelings. from the very start in fact he doesn't listen to her.

THIS. I have trouble believing he actually *loves* her and cares about her feelings.

[dangerousdame.livejournal.com]

I fail to see where his privilege plays into this. He wants to save lives from a serial killer, and perhaps he puts more pressure on Christine than he should. But I guess we can agree to disagree.

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

Ahh, this is what I've missed about fandom!secrets. I absolutely cannot tell whether you're being serious, or trolling!

[(Anonymous)]

u of all ppl should be agreeing w/ me

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

I do agree to some extent. I think kallandra_lee put it very well in her comment below. It was just your choice of phrasing that made me wonder whether you were serious or not.

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

That should read "I think kallanda_lee put it very well in her comment below".

[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

Why thank you :)

[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

He's manipulative in different ways. It has always been in the story, but I thought the acting/chemistry really brought it out in the 25th anniversary edition.

For example, he basically coerces her to be "bait" for the phantom, while she clearly doesn't want to - she's scared and fears her safety. He guilt-trips her about not wearing his ring, while she has her reasons not to wear it. He also basically waltzes into her life, waiting to be welcomed back (and adored) while he hasn't seen her for years.

I'm not saying the Phantom is not manipulative - but he's basically been ridiculed and hated by everyone. Raoul had everything handed on a silver platter and well, he's still a dick.

[dangerousdame.livejournal.com]

I disagree, but I can see how different actors can give weight to different aspects. I may feel differently, but I can at least see where you're coming from.

[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

I thought it was particularly showing in this version. Usually I'm just...indifferent to him.

[masterfedora.livejournal.com]

I'm glad somebody else saw that. Like you said below, I'm usually pretty indifferent to Raoul too but in this version he was just obnoxious.