[ SECRET POST #1746 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1746 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Yes! Precure 5/Yes! Pretty Cure 5]


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[FFVIII]


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[Lost Girl]


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[Hogan's Heroes]


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[Emilie Autumn]


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[Raising Hope]


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[Kagerou]


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[Torchwood]


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[Love Actually]


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13. http://i52.tinypic.com/2qatp5d.jpg
[South Park, linked for porn and also probably underage porn at that]


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[Alice in Wonderland]


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[Young Avengers]


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[Muppets]


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[George Washington and the Marquis de Lafayette]


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[Naruto]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]








42. [SPOILERS for doctor who]



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43. [SPOILERS for doctor who]



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44. [SPOILERS for surburban knights (dvd)]



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45. [SPOILERS for The Hour (BBC)]



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46. [SPOILERS for Adventure Time]

[TRIGGER WARNING for pedophilia]




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Notes:

Sorry about late, FS was broken on LJ for a while.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #248.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

She was raised to kill the Doctor. And she got called out on her "nobody will suffer more than me" thing. Thirdly, she'll basically commit suicide when the Doctor doesn't recognize her. A badass, majorly flawed person in love doesn't have to be a man.

[(Anonymous)]

There is a difference between a flawed female character and a problematic female character. You may not agree but some of us are seeing River as problematic.

Moffat has issues with his views on women, if you examine his female characters closely enough, it's not really hard to see.

[(Anonymous)]

But this is what I'm saying: being raised to kill the Doctor, their back to front interactions, refusing to kill him and destroying time, being a psychopath - none of these are portrayed as okay things.

[(Anonymous)]

Things being pointed out in the text as flawed does not free it from being problematic though. It's kind of like how I don't believe pointing out a plot hole in the text (like the Doctor has done at times) makes the plot hole any less of a plot hole, it just means the writers were aware of it and too lazy to come up with a real fix other then a hand wave.

There are many things I don't find inherently problematic about River (I don't care that she's a psychopath, I usually love crazy characters) but all together the fact that her ENTIRE identity revolves around the Doctor is a little off to me.

Now there are reasons for this in plot, certainly, but you have to take a step back and look at the fact that there was someone who put those reasons there, who wrote them in, and who most importantly could have chose not to write them in.

Moffat did not have to make River's whole identity about the Doctor, he chose to do so.

This is just my opinion though, I am not asking you to agree, but these are just my own reasons for having issues with River's characterization.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, understand a bit better. I'm enjoying her storyline and I want to see more of it but likewise, just my opinion. :)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Now there are reasons for this in plot, certainly, but you have to take a step back and look at the fact that there was someone who put those reasons there, who wrote them in, and who most importantly could have chose not to write them in.

Yeah, I feel like fandom forgets this a lot. I hated what happened to River this season, but even though I think, for instance, that her characterization in 6x13 was completely terrible, it was terrible in a way that leaves me frustrated with the writer, not the character.