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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-15 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #1747 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1747 ⌋


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Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 316 secrets from Secret Submission Post #250.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeats ]
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[identity profile] eerised-da.livejournal.com 2011-10-15 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
JK herself said that the teachers have private lives but keep them private. We know that Neville ends up with Hannah Abott, but who's to say she lives at the school? For all we know, he takes the floo back home every night. Could be that the other professors did the same thing who had families.

I agree that it would have been nice to have seen more of that, but it was Harry's perspective and I don't think he cared about which professor got married. >_<

Harry and Ginny always felt weird to me. She was his biggest fan, then she was really awesome and I liked her for her, and then, like you said, all her characterization was gone. But that's because JK wrote her to be the love interest. Harry pushing her away and shielding her when that was a lost cause always bothered me. I'd probably have liked it better if she'd been better characterized from the start. But the entire relationship just felt like a weird Oedipal complex/make Harry a Weasley thing.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-15 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish people would learn what an Oedipal complex is. It's not two people having the same colour of hair.

[identity profile] eerised-da.livejournal.com 2011-10-15 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I do know what it is. I have seen Oedipus Rex and I'm familiar with what's meant by Oedipus Complex. I'm not saying it's an actual complex. Perhaps what I mean is that the whole repeat of James and Lily comes through in Harry and Ginny. More than anything though, it's his way of being a part of the Weasley family which I think is just ridiculous because he's a part of the family regardless of being married to the one and only daughter.
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[personal profile] annissamazing 2011-10-16 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not the anon from above, but I'm really curious about your comment, because I don't understand how what your describing is an Oedipal complex (or like Oedipus in any way). I thought an Oedipal complex was the desire to kill your father to have sex with your mother, and no matter how I try to shape that idea, I can't get it to fit your statement.

I'm genuinely curious. I'm not trying to be a smartass or anything. It just seems like an interesting bit of meta and I'd like to hear more.

[identity profile] eerised-da.livejournal.com 2011-10-16 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're being a smart ass. Admittedly, I know it's not actually an Oedipus complex, so what I said isn't really what I meant. Mostly, I just think that Ginny and Harry are honestly a replica of James and Lily. He's never had a bond with his mother so you can't really argue that he even wants to sleep with her (Lily).

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[personal profile] annissamazing 2011-10-16 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're being a smart ass.

Good. :) I tend to be overly cautious in this forum so I don't unintentionally insult someone.

I like HP, but I'm not in the fandom, so when I saw something about Harry having an Oedipus complex, my first thought was, "Woah! I should reread the series!" I mean, if that sort of stuff is happening in the background, I need to know! :D

Mostly, I just think that Ginny and Harry are honestly a replica of James and Lily.

How so?

[identity profile] eerised-da.livejournal.com 2011-10-16 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
No worries. I can understand being cautious on a forum like this. Fandom tends to get intense sometimes.

It could just be how I see it coming from the way they both look, but to me it just felt like the one person chasing another endlessly, then they finally get together. The tables are a bit turned and it's certainly not the exact same, but it just seemed like such a repeat to me. I mean, we certainly didn't see much of James and Lily, but these are also very old opinions and I haven't read the books in a long while. So the next time I read them, I may be refreshing my opinions.