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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-22 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #1754 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1754 ⌋


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[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-10-22 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
This isn't an anti-feminist view. It's actually a generally feminist view about how a lot of writers are really fucking lazy about writing women.

Here's an article I really liked on lazy portrayals of women beyond typical damsel-in-distress complaints (http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-obnoxious-assumptions-hollywood-makes-about-women/#ixzz1bYS4416j):
I'm not saying women don't get angry for no good reason sometimes. Everybody does. I'm saying that the fact that a female character is hostile to a man right off the bat, without him having done anything bad, is apparently supposed to make us go, "Yes! She's strong and independent!" and sympathize with her, instead of wondering what her problem is. [...]
There's two reasons for this. One is just lazy writing. They can't think of a reason, so they just leave it as is, call it a day, and go do cocaine.

The other is that this is really how the writers see women. Their only picture of a "tough" woman is of a bitchy militant feminist who will scream at you for saying "Congressman" instead of "Congressperson." Tough women never have sensible reasons for getting upset (like being automatically denied a promotion because "you'll probably want to have babies in a few years"), but are just paranoid against men. But all the other women seem to rally behind them when they make a scene, so general anti-male paranoia must be what women admire.

These very well might be the guys that ogle women at the gym and get yelled at for it, and then tell stories later about how they were minding their own business at the gym and one of those oversensitive women that "sees rapists everywhere" threw a fit for no reason. So when it's time to pander to the female audience, they write a character based on what the lady at the gym looks like through their eyes (irrationally hostile towards a nice guy), expecting women to cheer for her like they supported the gym lady.

But it doesn't work like that. Most women, when they see another woman react to a man who says, "Hi, my name is Pete," by punching him in the balls, tend to stare in horror rather than whooping in sister solidarity. If this turns out to be a pattern, we're more inclined to suggest counseling than to admire her independence.

[identity profile] sainomadelaine.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, I love Christina H.

[identity profile] kryptoncat.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read Cracked in a while; thanks for the link!