[ SECRET POST #1754 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1754 ⌋


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Comments

[velvet-mace.livejournal.com]

TBH, I find the female characters who are super-smart, sophisticated, utterly confident, impeccably dressed, and can kick ass on command to be utterly, completely, crushingly boring. I love competence balanced by vulnerability, and these chicks are never, ever, ever vulnerable. It's even worse if their only flaw or weakness is an unpleasant or cold attitude. I can't care for characters who don't care about anything. I love it when they are earnest, open, and suck themselves up to be brave, rather than simply cakewalk their way through whatever I'm watching.

[checkerblob.livejournal.com]

THIS THIS THIS TIMES A BILLION.
My favorite characters, regardless of genitals, are the Crouching Moron Hidden Badass trope, the ones who seem like losers but, like you said, have to "suck themselves up to be brave".
I understand the appeal of kickass, badass James Bond types, I just find badassery SOOOO much more endearing when vulnerability/awkwardness/general weakness has to be overcome to achieve it.
It seems like Hollywood thinks that women are either girly, prissy princesses or tough-as-nails, confident badasses. Guess what? A lot of girls are neither pretty and girly nor confident and badass, and most girls in real life who are athletic and confident are also the pretty, popular ones (and there's NOTHING wrong with that, obviously, because there's not just one way to be a "good" woman). There are women who are lovable losers. There are women who are shy but cute nerds. But when guys are like that, they're Nice Guys We Root For, and when women are like that, they're pathetic. And honestly, that attitude is what's pathetic.
Tough, flawless characters are BORING. Boring, unendearing, unrelatable, and blah. If I wanted to read about how *~flawless a person is, I'd read Twilight.
(This is one of the better feminist points of the Harry Potter books-- JKR is by no means the best when it comes to the ladies, but Hermione, Ginny and Luna are all, at least at their introduction, big dorks. Ginny actually follows the whole "lovable loser becomes a badass" storyline, but for some reason that made her a Mary-Sue (while doing the exact same thing made Neville a god... not that I disagree, but that never sat well with me.) That's one of the things that really bugged me about the movies, the hotification of Hermione. Is it so wrong for a girl to just be dorky?)

[(Anonymous)]

I love this comment. Ten points to you.

[marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com]

I like both kinds, but now I'm curious as to your opinion of Karen Crowder (played by Tilda Swinton) from Michael Clayton?

While she isn't earnest and she isn't by any means open, she does puff herself up into doing technically 'brave' things that she really shouldn't take responsibility for, in a really horrible, completely misdirected kind of way.