[ SECRET POST #1755 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1755 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 206 secrets from Secret Submission Post #251.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com]

I'm just curious as to why they bother with fandoms then since they have no real interest in the character.

That's my take, anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Because fandom is where the porn is?

Not only that, but you can have both. A lot of people read for the character most of the time, but occasionally they just want something hot to jack to.

I repeat, why do you care?

[saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com]

I hate character derailment.

:U

[(Anonymous)]

Then stick to the canon and don't read fanfic. I repeat, again, why do you care what other people do?

[saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com]

Prob for the same reason you're replying to this, caring why I care.

no really

[(Anonymous)]

No, I care because you're trying to actively shame people (like...oh...me) who just happen to not agree with you. Whereas you're scarily preoccupied with what other people do to fictional characters for...some reason that can't seem to come up with, even after being asked multiple times. Do you just not know, or are you too ashamed to say what it is?

[saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com]

Truthfully I just wanted to see how many people would lash out to an opinion that doesn't align with their PoV and was likely to be unpopular.

Some people responded wanting valid discussion or at least not outright HERP DERP YOU HATE GAYS THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MY PORN!!!! mess and I can provide that.

Mostly I just wanted lulz at peoples' intolerance of others' views if it doesn't suit them. I think shipping straight chars as gay is dumb so I MUST BE HOMOPHOBIC and I think porn is a nonsense waste of life so I MUST BE BRAINWASHED RELIGIOUS NUT.

Yeap. lulz obtained :U

[(Anonymous)]

You didn't get jumped on because of intolerance, honey. You got jumped on because you phrased your opinion in an inflammatory manner and acted like a complete douchecanoe about it. Big diofference. But hey, it got you lulz, it got me lulz (because you are such a small-minded idiot, it's hilarious), so I say we all win.

[saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com]

alright how would YOU state it

it was phrased intentionally to get maximum mad. even if it had been 'not inflammatory' I'd imagine the quantity of users who simply can't handle anyone thinking straight char --> gay for the purpose of your fic is a badsauce idea would be the same and they'd react in the same way.

'jumped on'. rofl. p sure i ran this spouds here.

[(Anonymous)]

"I think writing straight characters as gay is pretty dumb, but hey, whatever floats your boat. Just don't try to sink mine and we're cool."

Many people have said the above, even on fanficrants, and the usual response is either nothing, or "whatever." But hey, keep playing the victim if it helps you sleep better at night.

[(Anonymous)]

it was phrased intentionally to get maximum mad

Newsflash: that totally invalidates your entire intolerance argument. People getting mad when you say something intentionally worded to piss them off are not being intolerant of your viewpoint. They're being intolerant of your being a douche.

Go back under your bridge.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

Because writing two characters having sex or being in a relationship automatically = not caring at all about the characters / characterization.

Except not.

[saturnonjupiter.livejournal.com]

It is when the characterization revolves somewhat strongly around their sexual/relationship life/endeavors and to disregard how they're portrayed means, to me, you don't care about all facets of their personality, only those that you can toss into your fic to make it sound slightly different from the last one you wrote.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

Yeaaaah no, cos for one thing, personality and characterization is almost always above and beyond sexual interest and that bullshit. How a person acts, their history and their feelings, inform how they act towards sex and relationships, and within a relationship; the reverse is not true. Anyway, not all shows/movies/whatever showcase sexual or romantic lives as of paramount importance; in fact, the fandoms I pursue tend to put romance more on the back-burner -- to be fair, the characters are usually rather more interested in saving the world.

Anyway, again, your homophobia is showing in your thought that showing a person being interested in someone of the same sex means you're "picking and choosing characterization." As if slash writers are simply unable to objectively look at two people and consider whether or not they would make sense as a pairing, and how it would happen, what would go on, etc. No, of course we're all shallow and just ditching huge swathes of characterization for shits and giggles, not actually sensitively portraying two well-characterized, in-character people falling for one another or being in a relationship with one another* -- that's impossible, amiright?

* - Obviously I am not saying every slash fic is written like this. But fuck, neither is every het fic. Or every gen fic. But I've seen a lot of slash fic that put more effort into correct and canon characterization and portrayal than the actual show's writers did, ffs. And idk, I put a lot more stock in "these two guys have had incredibly chemistry for months" than I do in "hey the writers thought this needed more sex so he's gonna hook up with this girl we brought onto the show one episode ago that he has nothing in common with."