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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-24 07:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1756 ]

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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on what you mean by vegetative state. Just because someone can't move or talk doesn't mean they aren't able to sense anything going on around them. Even someone with severe brain damage might still be able to see someone force themselves on them

Also, I don't know about you, but I think living people have a soul that is linked to their consciousness and dead bodies don't, because their consciousness has left the body by that point. Bodies aren't people, but even people in comas or vegetative states are still people.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
"Just because someone can't move or talk doesn't mean they aren't able to sense anything going on around them."

There isn't really any scientific proof of this, though. If you do a sternum rub on a person their eyes tend to flinch, but that doesn't mean they feel it, it could just be a normal body reaction.

It depends on the culture, some cultures don't believe the soul leaves the body until they are buried, so YMMV there.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
some cultures don't believe the soul leaves the body until they are buried

Well, childings would call that belief "stupid" and "superstitious" because it differs from her own beliefs re. the nature of the human soul, which are not superstitious at all.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't change the fact that you're still an asshole

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
You're doing a very poor job of respecting other people's religious beliefs in this thread, so it's kind of startling to see you bring up your own in the same discussion as a legit argument. It's not quite hypocritical but it might border on stupid?

You know I usually really like your comments but when you go off, you REALLY go off.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Still, very few people would agree that it's okay to fuck a person who is still breathing and alive without their consent, even if they are unable to give consent

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, because that would be considered rape.

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
But being that it's relatively difficult to determine technicalities of "whether X person is aware or not," why would you bother taking the chance?

If there is any, even .00001 percent chance that someone can sense what is happening to them, or wake up and have to deal with the consequences, it's rape. End of bloody story. Period. If they're alive and you fuck them without express permission, even if it's unlikely that they'll ever know, it's still fucking rape.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Rape is rape. I agree.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Do you believe that a person's soul/consciousness cease to exist when a person dies?
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I do.
I know not everyone does (I just can't believe in an afterlife personally), but how many people who believe in life after death think that a person's soul sticks around in a dead and decaying body after they die? I would think if someone's soul lives on they wouldn't be confined to their body anymore.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
They could still care what happens to it even if they're not confined to it though.