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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-24 07:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1756 ]

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[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Do you think of brain-dead individuals as a person?

Personally, no, I do not. But if interested, I specified why I would consider violating a braindead patient different from having sex with a corpse.

(Don't get me wrong, I consider it to be pretty vile and respectful to have sex with dead bodies, too.)

Yes, the body is human, but not a person anymore, and that does make all the difference in the world. The respect we have or corpses is usually linked with honoring the memory of the person they used to be, or their family's feelings. A body does not have the same rights as a person, otherwise we could keep corpses in our living room.

And separate from rights: you cannot hurt a corpse. You cannot psychologically traumatize it for life. You cannot make it pregnant. It's just...not the same at all.

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
But what if in the case where someone believed in an afterlife, specifically one where the body must be respected, and if it's defiled the soul will be at unrest?

I mean, from an atheist perspective it wouldn't be a big deal, but there are a lot of belief systems that view proper burial care and respect to be integral to the person's consciousness finding peace.

[identity profile] alloysius.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well, they're not going to know anyway. I mean, it bothers them now but a brain dead Christian and a brain dead Satan worshipper are exactly the same. They're braindead.


Agreeing with Kallanda here 100%
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[identity profile] raihu.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I am just going to say that I'm extremely thankful that you brought this up. Not many people here seem to have considered the existence of alternate cultural views on death/the afterlife/the body/consent/basically anything, and that's kind of irritating.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Screw you.

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-10-27 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well, one might argue that even if you believe in an afterlife, the "soul" is already gone.

I am not saying we should just happily cheer on necrophiliacs and not sanction them at all. We most definitely should.
What me and some others in this thread were saying is that violating a living human being (or even a living animal)is just completely on a different scale than defiling a corpse. Yes, perhaps you are indeed going against someone beliefs...but that is a completely different spectrum, and a different sort of crime.