[ SECRET POST #1756 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1756 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 165 secrets from Secret Submission Post #251.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

Re: Throughts from an ESL

[rayiroth.livejournal.com]

You know, I made a comment yesterday but I thought more about it it rings truer. Just look at the amount of comments here demanding people to speak perfect English because "it's an English site" - Livejournal is Russian owned, and just look at how well it catered for us non-Russian speakers, well enough that people think that it's an English First place. Yes I get LJ's history and whatever, but the thing is now it's owned by a Russian company and they still made efforts on updating their English department. In places like Pixiv even if the English option isn't perfect, they still try to make us to feel included.

I wonder if this entitlement is because a native English speaker is more likely to be monolingual while a native non-English speaker is more likely to be multilingual. (Obviously omitting ESL people as that's a given). When you think about it, in all the English based places I lived in being monolingual is seen as the norm, while on a global scale it is actually quite rare. It's either people who were in environments that require multiple languages to function, or if it's so rammed into school curriculum that people would have to get a taste on learning another language.

The truth is, people don't know how hard it is to learn another language until they have to actually do it. I'm not talking about "oh I went a Japanese class now I can kanichiwa", learning individual words is easy but many never ever went past that stage, and they seriously believe that if they can be truly correct in their mother tongue at the age of 8, then an ESL speaker who have learned English for 8 years must be at the same level; or somehow people can "double check" away their mistakes. In reality it doesn't work like that, at all.

I could easily be mistaken as English speaker orally, but my English grammar is still all over the place. While I haven't used my native language on regular bases for like what, 5 years? I can still pick it up in complete grammar correctness after a few minutes of warming up. Most grammar books out there are pretty useless anyway. One thing I can say for sure, us ESL users tend to not mess up apostrophes because that's the only thing in English grammar that stays consistent to its own rules.