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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-25 07:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #1757 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1757 ⌋


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Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 119 secrets from Secret Submission Post #.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
The current pirate portrayal in media is far more informed by Captain Hook as a fantasy/archetype than actual pirates. I would say that most peoples liking of pirates is akin to liking steampunk. It's cool, but pretty disconnected from reality-as-it-had-been.

The pirates (usually Carribbean-style pirates) are something that happened several hundred years ago. There is nobody living today who was victimised by a pirate of the Carribbean, unlike Nazis. There are still victims of their atrocities alive, and there are still people who lost their entire families to them. And it was what, 70 years ago? That's nothing.

If they don't resemble a Nazi uniform anyway, then why tack on a swastika just to make it ~~~~Nazi~~~? Why not just draw a random sexy uniform? It smacks of edginess. With a sledgehammer.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
People are going to jump on you for drawing any black uniform with jackboots and flared pants and call you a Nazi fan for it even if the swastika is missing, as far as I've seen. Every time, somebody makes the Nazi reference even if there is no sign of Nazi-specific gear.

I would never purposely add a swastika or death's head to a uniform, but people tend to associate any uniform that looks vaguely like that with Nazi fetishism

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I was specifically referring to what previous anon said, about cases where they're really not that similar to Nazi uniforms, it's just the swastika.
I know that if it actually looks like a Nazi uniform only without the swastika you're not fooling anybody.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Thing is, I feel the same way about Nazi kink as I've usually seen it. Most of it that I've seen isn't about being realistic, and the little of it that is grosses me out, too.

I'm sure this is gonna get me crucified, but honestly I don't really see why "edginess" is bad. A lot of people kink on things they find scary or weird or wrong. I'm not sure I understand why that's considered laughable, or why it's assumed that having a kink for something because it's wrong is about... secretly thinking it's not wrong.

Uh, no, then people like that would kink on something else!

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
because these people are being dramatically offensive in public sometimes?
because holocaust denial still exists?
they're turning it into something hot and cutesy and half of them don't know any history.

and edginess is bad because it's on purpose. it's a mindset that you're doing it in order to shock. it's rebelling for the sake of rebelling

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I highly doubt people into Nazi chic believe the Holocaust didn't happen. Half of the kink is that the Nazis were bad people.

turning it into something hot and cutesy and half of them don't know any history.

See, I would give a shit if that didn't happen ALL the time with Vikings, pirates, the French aristocracy, American Revolutionary uniforms, American Civil War uniforms, etc.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
You're too grown-up for this thread, please leave at once. I mean, you sound like you've actually had sex at some point in your life. WTF are you doing here??

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, crap. You've found me out!

(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of pirates, I'd just like to point out that it's still a problem nowadays, e.g. in Somalia. So there are people living today who were victimised by piracy.