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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-29 02:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #1761 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1761 ⌋


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Early because there's a snowstorm here, not sure if power will stay on. Better early than late!


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(Anonymous) 2011-10-30 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Why so whiny, anon? Why do you feel the need to complain about this? Seriously, look at your comment. It boils down to:

- You're not special, so stop acting as if you are.
- I've never seen women getting in trouble for their gender.
- The only ones who do are women who want to get attention for their gender.
- Men get hit on online too.
- You're crying and playing the victim.

Seriously. Is it that hard for you to realise that your experiences =/= other people's, and that the many people who get shit for being female in male-dominated areas aren't just making things up? And for that matter, how come you're posting that in response to an OP who committed the dreadful sin of...not correcting people when they got her gender wrong, partly for the lulz and partly because she'd get different treatment if she did. Oh the horror.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-30 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's fucking stupid, that's why. I'm really sick and tired of women putting themselves on this pedestal that they're so much better than guys. Guess what? We're not. We both fuck up. We both do stupid shit. And we both act the same way in different situations. If you want to leave your gender neutral, then do so, but do it because you don't give a shit. Don't do it because you're afraid of getting lynched on solely because of your gender. That's fucking stupid. If some jerk insults you then don't take it so personally. That same jerk probably insulted a bunch of people before you. And I say my experience is relevant because I've been around it for at least a decade. I have way more guy friends then and now than I have friends that are girls. Some of them have been jerks, but most of them honestly couldn't care less. And it's frankly why I prefer the company of guys over girls because they really don't give a shit. I know they would tell me to let this shit go, but it drives me up the wall why some women act like this when it's so stupid.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it's fucking stupid, that's why. I'm really sick and tired of women putting themselves on this pedestal that they're so much better than guys.

How is coming across as gender neutral when taken to be such in any way claiming to be "better than guys" or "putting (oneself) on a pedestal"?

Don't do it because you're afraid of getting lynched on solely because of your gender. That's fucking stupid.

Why? It happens. That it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen, because it does. So how is that stupid?

And I say my experience is relevant because I've been around it for at least a decade. I have way more guy friends then and now than I have friends that are girls.

I've been "at it" for over two decades. And I have "way more" guy friends then girls (IRL virtually all of them are, actually). If this is our bellwether for whose experiences get to be relevant, I win. So, listen up. This does not make you or me superior to or better than other women. It does not mean their company is in any way inferior to a man's. Were that true, why would they hang out with us? We're both women too. It means my hobbies, interests, and tendencies are male dominated. Women who are different than us are just as valid, valuable, and cool. Many of them also "don't really give a shit".

But if you hang out with them because they "don't really give a shit" and thus you prefer their company, do you not see the irony in flying into a shrill, petulatant, whiny fit over how other people express themselves on the internet means that they should by your own logic not prefer your company? Because by the evidence we have here, you are the perfect example of one of those "some women act(ing) like this when it's so stupid".