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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-31 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #1763 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1763 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Somebody's been spamming the submissions post with old secrets, apparently (for what actual purpose, I'm not sure). Just give me a heads up and I'll take the repeats down.

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 200 secrets from Secret Submission Post #252.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - omgiknowthem ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
You need to get some friends with better taste and better critical thinking skills, tbh.

But since you really want to know why I love Mary, I'll indulge you because I DO genuinely love her. I don't love-to-hate her. I adore her and she's the one character on the show that I am really rooting for.

Mary is the most realistic and human character on the show. She is not an awful human being. Just a realistic average one. I honestly don't understand how anyone can hate her, and I assume that anyone who does isn't watching the show closely enough and has a very shallow understanding of her character. Yes, Mary does things that aren't admirable, but if you look at her life in context, it easy to understand why she is the way that she is, and it's also obvious that deep down she cares for other people.

Mary isn't a saint and she reacts to circumstances in a believable manner. When Mary feels trapped and cornered, she lashes out. In series 1, she knows that her family wants her to be with Matthew, so her instinct is to push him away with cutting remarks. Mary's life makes her angry. She's angry that she can't inherit, and she's angry that everyone sees her marriage and her future as a pawn by which they can maintain the estate. Yes, Mary is bitchy to Edith, but Edith isn't in the right either. Edith does something that has the potential to ruin Mary's entire life. So Mary gets her own back and ruins Edith's possible engagement. It's not admirable, but it IS believable. Throughout series 2, Mary has been a lot nicer externally because after what happened with Matthew in series 1, I think she wants to stop pushing people away. However, in her relationship with Carlisle, I think Mary is beginning to feel trapped again so she's going back to her old series one defense mechanism. In the most recent episode, Mary is cold and says hurtful things to Carson. But she only does it after Carson is basically like "yeah... so your future husband is a jerk and a creeper. I was going to go with you to help you in your marriage, but once I found out that your fiance is a terrible person, I'm going to abandon you with him. Have fun!" Mary's hurt is so understandable.

Mary does and says some questionable things. But even from the very first episode, it's obvious that there is more to her than that. She apologizes to Bates for taking the duke into the servants rooms because she knows she is in the wrong. She and Anna seem to have a genuinely caring relationship. Mary ensures that William sees his mother before she dies. Mary seems to truly love Sybil and wants what is best for her (which is why she goes after Sybil when Sybil tries to elope- not because she is bitter as I've seen people say). And of course, throughout series 2 we see how much Mary selflessly loves Matthew. She does obvious things like nursing him when he is injured, but more important is that moment in 2x02 when Mary decides not to tell Matthew how she feels. Mary genuinely wants Matthew to be happy and once she sees that he could have that with Lavinia, Mary puts her own feelings aside. Mary is not a heartless bitch. She loves and cares for people, even if she isn't keen to show it.

[identity profile] criedtherabbit.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Mr. Carson, is that you?

Juuuust kidding. :D

...he wouldn't know how to work the internet.

*flee*

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I WISH I were a fabulous as Carson. Also, CARSON/MARY NON-ROMANTIC OTP!

lol. Carson's lack of ability to use technology is my favorite thing ever. There was a promo pic released for 2x07 with him and Mary and a gramophone AND I WAS ALL "YES THIS IS EVERYTHING I WANT FROM LIFE", but I guess that scene was cut or something. :(

[identity profile] criedtherabbit.livejournal.com 2011-11-02 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Mr. Carson's paternal feelings toward Mary are one of the best things on the show, I agree!

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So sweet. :,(

[identity profile] izzy-the-hutt.livejournal.com 2011-11-03 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm firmly of the belief that Mrs. Hughes and Mr. Carson are the allegorical Mary-haters and Mary-stans. this is why I love Carson so

(Anonymous) 2011-11-02 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I used to think that this show seemed really intriguing and worth a watch, but all the overexposure to Matthew/Mary I've had recently online has made me apprehensive of watching the show, for the fear it might not live up to the hype.

Reading this made me lose whatever interest I had. If the fans find someone not liking a certain character a sign that the person in question is missing out and needs "friends with a better taste and better critical thinking skills", I sure as hell would hate to be on either side of that.

So, in short, thanks for saving me the time I might otherwise have wasted on this show. Appreciated.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2011-11-02 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
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Glad to be a service! It's too bad that you're missing out on a really great show, but tbh, you don't seem like you'd be fun to have in fandom, so it's probably for the best.