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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-08 07:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #1771 ]

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-09 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
what kind of human characteristics?

OP

(Anonymous) 2011-11-09 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well, in the Transformers (G1) fandom, it's mainly things like fanfic authors putting mouths on characters with facemasks and two optics behind a visor... just humanizing the characters a little too much physically. I'm only annoyed because it puts me out of the story. Why can't some members of an alien race have just one eye; why can't what's normal for them not be what's normal for us?

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-09 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
ah, I see what you mean.

yes, that kind of thing break my immersion too in my fandoms

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-09 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
NA

Haha, tell me about it. Mostly authors need to put a mouth on a character in order to make them suck dick.

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[identity profile] fierceawakening.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
That said I do hate the whole optics behind the visor thing. I don't know why that even bugs me, but it does. It won't make me OMGHAET a fic or anything, but I just kind of wonder why it's so important that everyone have two eyes except Shockwave and Lugnut.

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[identity profile] eaten-by-bears.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Now I really want to write Soundwave or First Aid giving someone a nuzzle-job...

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[identity profile] humblebot.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
>>putting mouths on characters with facemasks

A lot of canon material does that too, though. Optimus Prime and Soundwave, for example, both have mouths behind their masks.

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-09 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I know Optimus has a mouth in Prime and Animated, but I didn't think he or Soundwave had one in G1. I can't even imagine Soundwave having a face to show emotions with. Please, show me pics/links for proof!*

(BTW, I just chose that pic up there because it was funny/horrifying and from a storybook whose continuity had nothing to do with the cartoon/comics. That smile looks evil.)

*Orion Pax wouldn't count, I don't think? What with the reformatting and all.

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[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
no, look at the movie. Optimus had a mouth under there. always did.

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[identity profile] sziondaisy.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
I knew I had a picture saved in my bookmarks somewhere - http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_soundwave_comics_mouth.jpg

I have no idea what comic it's from, sorry.

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[identity profile] humblebot.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Optimus does in many different comics (example (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/thumb/b/b1/AHM-13_Prime_mouth.jpg/150px-AHM-13_Prime_mouth.jpg)), and even Soundwave did once (glorious (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/4/44/Soundwave_uscomics.jpg)). G1 cartoon didn't show them, but a lot of people don't write strict G1 cartoon, but rather general G1 universes, so I don't see the problem.
Edited 2011-11-09 20:08 (UTC)

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[identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Only in the comics, though. If you're writing primarily cartoon-verse G1, you could probably argue against them having mouths. And IIRC Optimus in the Marvel comics has a microphone-looking voice grate behind his facemask; don't remember if Soundwave did.

Of course Starscream also had a weird-ass lizard tongue in the Marvel stuff, so...one step forward and one step back, I suppose.

/tldr

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[identity profile] spectrumpheonix.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I always assumed they had mouths because in the G1 cartoons both Optimus and Soundwave, when they spoke, were animated as though they had a jaw.

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[identity profile] humblebot.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Most people take details cross-continuity without it bothering anyone, so getting annoyed by a writer using G1 comics anatomy in G1 cartoon fic seems over the top picky. G1 cartoon never said they DIDN'T have mouths, so I don't see why writers shouldn't be able to assume, if they wish, that G1 cartoon characters have mouths behind their facemasks when they've been shown in several other continuities.

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
^ This.

Thank you for saying it so well.

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-09 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
And then I just totally creeped on your journal and found out you are one of the people responsible for the only reason why I have a tumblr. I love askaseeker, so thank you humblebot!

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[identity profile] humblebot.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :D