[ SECRET POST #1775 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1775 ⌋


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Comments

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

And that's already happening with Child Services removing children from unstable homes, and even then there's a ton of problems in the system, with severe abuse being overlooked in some cases while being unfairly played up or manufactured in other cases. So think how much worse your child license scenario would be.

Uh, also, on your previous post:

Nobody cares unless you strangle your baby to death. Even then, you'd have all the freedom to try and raise another one.

No, in general you go to jail for murder if that happens. They don't give you a slap on the wrist for killing a baby.

[amph87.livejournal.com]

I realize it can be hard to distinguish an abusive home from a non-abusive one in the long run. Admittedly my system wouldn't be perfect, but the question is, could it help?

The problem would be to draw the line, of course, but I wouldn't think it's absolutely impossible to make a checklist of a few extremely heavy criteria that would prevent a bad parent from raising children.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

Your system would victimize more than it could help. If you have extremely heavy criteria, most child abusers will slip through the cracks because most child abusers don't look like they're going to hurt a child. On the other hand it's going to penalize people with mental disorders, despite the fact that they can be perfectly competent parents--like mine, for instance.

[amph87.livejournal.com]

Hmm, your argument is starting to sound like something I agree with. Yeah, some child abusers could probably slip through my system. Like I said, it wouldn't be perfect. Very few government systems are, in the end.

I was referring to very obvious cases that would/should ring with anyone's common sense. My hypothetical future parent has a history of violent crime and a medically proven tendency for incontrollable fits of rage and abuse, and also approves of spanking kids for discipline. Would it be such an outlandish idea to prohibit a person from legally starting a family before they've gotten professional help for their problem?

Well, I guess that's my core argument but you'll probably disagree anyway. I think we're coming to a dead end with this.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

If they're provable a danger to a hypothetical child, then they're already a provable danger to society. If people keep getting in fights, we lock them up. If it's due to medical problems we institutionalize them until they've gotten treatment.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that we already have laws in place to deal with violent people.