[ SECRET POST #1775 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1775 ⌋


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Comments

[amph87.livejournal.com]

I'm actually a little disappointed that you choose to stay anon because I like your arguments :)

You wouldn't give a driver's license to someone blind, or someone with practically nonexistent reflexes or motoric skills, though. Not everyone with a driving license is an excellent driver, but at least the licence system doesn't accept people who are objectively incapable of driving safely.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, I have poor fine-motor skills and extremely bad reflexes. It's called dyspraxia and it's never prevented me from getting a driver's license. It means I have to be careful, nothing more, nothing less.

And a blind person know that they will not be getting behind the wheel of a car any time soon. They choose not to take the test, so why bring it up?

Here's my point. Comparing a parenting license to driver's license is a bad analogy. Is it also a yearly thing like a driver's license? Or is it a one time with a wedding license? If your kid's grades start dropping, are you in danger of losing your parental rights?

And here is something you never once addressed. What about the homosexual community? Where does parenting license leave them? What about the same couples who already have kids? Do they get grandfathered into the system or do they get their kids snapped up if they don't pass your precious tests?

[amph87.livejournal.com]

Agreed that the driving license analogy was clumsy, but it was literally the first license that came to mind and I didn't intend to compare them any further originally.

Eh, maybe it's because I was raised in a socialist country but I'd see nothing wrong with a practice to consult with a professional when planning to start a family. A baby is a huge life decision and since people aren't always rational about babies, a third party could give valuable help, recommendations and advice, anything really to secure a better future for the kid. Maybe they could even add a bonus to your child benefit if you went through all the hoops they ask you to. Go to parenting classes and whatnot.

That would be the kinder version of my idea since it doesn't really force anything on anyone. It's more realistic, I admit, but at least my "parenting license" idea sparked a rather interesting discussion here.

I guess the point I was originally making was that I wouldn't mind if the government kept an eye on people who decide to reproduce. Because sometimes people are dumb and make bad decisions, and one shouldn't make bad decisions when there's a childhood at stake.

[(Anonymous)]

The United States government can't even run itself. Why should it run my uterus or for that matter take away my hypothetical children because I can't leap through the hoops well enough? We nearly came close to a law in Mississippi passing that would have given a fertilized egg rights over the woman.

Some of the worst most restrictive laws in history came about for the children, but in reality, they were used to control. Please remember that.

Plus rich people would be able to pay their way into being bad parents.

[amph87.livejournal.com]

Did you actually read my comment because I did state that the more realistic version of my idea wouldn't FORCE people in any way. Parents would simply get financial support if they consulted with a professional about their baby plans and went to parenting class. Does that still sound bad to you.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, yes, it is. If you're poor and you need the money, you're forced into classes that you don't want simply for the financial aid. That's what we call extortion. Pure and simple. Rich people don't need the benefit.

[amph87.livejournal.com]

Well. I guess I can only agree that this model could work in my country, but not in yours.

[(Anonymous)]

But why wouldn't you want a free parenting class to, you know, help you be a better parent, expecially if you'd get financial aid after it? What would you lose?

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's assuming that you're going to be a default bad parent unless you take these classes.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT ...No, it's assuming that pretty much everyone could be a better parent and that parents(-to-be), like all people, are imperfect human beings. Sure, some need less help than others, but even so, what's wrong with revising what you think you already know? Or learning something completely new that might have never even occurred to you otherwise? I'd think it's better than raising children by trial and error. "Whoops, you should't hold a baby like that or feed that to children? My bad, I'll do better with the next kid!"

Sometimes I really wonder if some people are looking for a reason to be offended.

[(Anonymous)]

My grandfather has been having seizures ever since he had a stroke, and he was allowed to renew his license.