[ SECRET POST #1775 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1775 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 247 secrets from Secret Submission Post #254.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, that's but a tiny part of my MZB's a douche. She covered for her husband being pedophile irl. Excerpt from http://www.sff.net/people/stephen.goldin/mzb/ : MARRION ZIMMER BRADLEY was a noted science fiction and fantasy author, with best-sellers to her credit and a large number of adoring fans. But MZB, as she was often called, had far less savory aspects to her as well. Most notably, she actively aided and abetted her husband, Walter Breen, in the sexual abuse and molestation of children. Before people cast too many tears over her death, they may wish to learn some of the harm she helped perpetrate in the world as well.

You can check out a timeline of events and read MZB's excerpted testimony to learn how she behaved in this matter. You can also read the complete text of the sworn testimony she gave at her first two (out of three) depositions in a case against her, just to show we didn't omit anything significant. (The third deposition will be posted if and when we get a copy in digital form; it's equally revealing.) The only editing that has been done to the full text version is to disguise the names of people that had not previously been published in connection with these activities. Otherwise, the text is exactly as the court reporter typed it, with all the repetitions, evasions and lawyers' wranglings that occur during such events. It's tough slogging, but the truth is in there.

In the excerpts you'll see that MZB admits having deliberately covered up her husband's involvement in activities she knew were illegal and harmful. She took some pains to tell Walter not to molest her own children, but she didn't care in the least what he did to other children. Readers will be able to judge for themselves the sort of moral character this woman possessed.

Other links:
Timeline of Events: http://www.sff.net/people/stephen.goldin/mzb/timeline.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley
http://www.sff.net/people/stephen.goldin/mzb/reply.html

She did a lot of good in other areas of her life but I don't know. Her books I will happily pirate if I feel the need to reread them to prevent Ms. Waters and others of her ilk from getting any money.

[(Anonymous)]

So it's okay to steal from people who have done other bad things? I mean, I guess it's somewhat different if you already pirate regularly, but really?

different anon

[(Anonymous)]

Ignoring the issue of pirating vs. stealing, I'd consider it much more unethical to contribute money to an enabler of a child molester than to acquire a copy of something without paying for it.