[ SECRET POST #1799 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1799 ⌋


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Comments

[van.livejournal.com]

You know, it's interesting to me that the "average" "normal" person spends hundreds of dollars every year on "trendy" new summer/spring/fall/winter clothes, and thinks almost nothing of selling/donating/throwing them away after a year or two. (i.e. "Wow, that style is so 2009...") So, why is it considered unacceptable for people to spend money on action figures or art books or statues or whatever? Sure, someone else may not get why you want to spend $400 on a piece of resin that sits on a shelf and does nothing, but I don't get why people want to spend $400 on NFL tickets that are good for shitty seats for one night.

It can be a problem, sure. Any episode of "Hoarders" can tell you that. But if you're not stealing money from your kids or getting into debt because you can't pay off your bills, it's pretty much fine. And if you're anything like me, the things you HAD TO HAVE five years ago are less "important" to you now and you can generally turn around and sell them for double, triple, sometimes five or ten times the cost you paid for them. They are collectables for a reason. Then you turn around and put that money back into new stuff. Seems like a much better "waste" of money than binge alcohol drinking on the weekends, or trendy clothes you wear for a year and have to give away, or overpriced sports tickets.

Talk to your therapist, sure. But it may also not be as big a deal as you fear.

[sairei.livejournal.com]

This is an excellent comment!

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, double standards :/}

sports fandom merchandise? a-okay!

other fandom stuff? baaaad

tons of clothes and make-up? a-okay!

anime t-shirts and books? baaaad

[georgeslymaniv.livejournal.com]

I don't think the anime t-shirts and books are what people think is the problem. People look down on the collectible figurines and J-group photo sets and other things created just to generate money. At least you can wear a shirt or read a book. What can you do with a figurine or photoset but put it on top of your desk and let it accumulate dust?

[(Anonymous)]

What? No it's not fine. Compulsive shopping is considered an addiction - it's related to impulse control and desire for instant gratification - compulsive shoppers tend to have trouble thinking of the big picture, or how their actions will damage them in the long run and instead go for the short term thrill. It's pretty much the same as any other addiction.

As for clothes - not everyone who spends a lot of money on clothes throws them out in a year. In fact, generally people who invest money in expensive clothes do so because the expensive clothes are well-made and last many years. I paid $180 for a pair of incredibly well-made Born leather boots in 2007 - they still look like new and I wear them pretty much every day. The things have god-damn hand-stitched leather soles. They're going to last at least another 4, if not more. I mean, if you do the simple math on that, people who buy crappy cheap shoes a couple times a year are being stupid with their money compared to me.

Have you ever looked at, for example, vintage Coach bags? They're still quite expensive, because that stuff can last up to 50 years or more. But I bet you would make some pithy comment about how it's stupid frivolous fashion, wouldn't you?

So yes, I'd say in comparison to something utilitarian, like investing in a wardrobe that will last upwards of a decade if well cared for - stuff you put on your fucking body everyday - has way more worth than overpriced resin crap that sits on a shelf where you can stare at it and daydream about how you're so cool for owning that plastic thing.

I'm not even going to get into the sports ticket thing, because honestly I don't think you'd be even able to broach the idea of experiences having more value than things.

[lipstickcrisis.livejournal.com]

Whoops. Didn't see your comment before I posted and basically echoed everything you said in mine haha.

Obviously I agree with you, but I think you're taking this a little personally? People have different values. Compulsive shopping is dangerous, but that doesn't mean material things (with no purpose beyond aesthetics) in moderation are inherently bad, or less in value than experiences.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I was nodding along until the last paragraphs. That sounded increasingly angry and resentful, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

At least we can change our look with our new 'crappy' shoes every few months rather than having to wear the same pair for years on end and having to get bored with them.

I hope you clean them well too, because it's not very healthy for your feet to be stuck in the same pair for years, collecting sweat and other nasty things inside.

[lipstickcrisis.livejournal.com]

I understand what you're getting at, but I have to disagree. It's easy to say that it's socially acceptable to buy clothes and later discard them if they're not "trendy" simply because that's, well, mainstream. But clothing is used--even if you give it away a year later, it has gone through, presumably, many wearings. It has a direct purpose beyond aesthetics. The same is true of NFL tickets--it's an experience, similar to how a vacation might function.

I think society just values experiences and amenities over aesthetics. That doesn't mean there's no value in aesthetics, but I don't think it's difficult to see why society at large doesn't appreciate action figures/statues/etc.

da

[(Anonymous)]

"I think society just values experiences and amenities over aesthetics."

*lightbulb*

Suddenly, a lot of things make more sense. Thank you!