[ SECRET POST #1799 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1799 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

most korean students come out of high school despising westerners because of the royal assholes who taught them english. it's not exclusively a male thing, either, although the men who go have a reputation for being skeevy. some of the more terrible female teachers have a reputation for being arrogant and condescending.

it's sad that a lot of young koreans these days are being exposed to such awful individuals, and drawing their conclusions on western culture around these limited interactions.

[(Anonymous)]

99% of Western guys in Asia are douchebags with yellow fever and American military slackjaws (with yellow fever). The only reason there hasn't been a race riot is because... well, guess who has the guns?

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

some of the more terrible female teachers have a reputation for being arrogant and condescending.

...as an ESL tutor this makes me wince. I was told once by a fellow teacher (who was asian) that I'm condescending with students and I asked him in what way/give me examples but he couldn't give me anything specific. It's been driving me crazy since; I don't know what I'm doing that's condescending but I think I must be doing it. I want to fix my behaviour but I just have no fucking clue tbh.

ESL teachers get no damn feedback. Most people who do the "teach English in Asia" thing have no idea what the fuck they're doing/are seriously underqualified, really. I think a lot of it is unconscious/out of sheer ignorance. That doesn't make it okay, but we go in pretty blind... there's no one to school us and the fact that most people just go for a year or two and leave just as they're figuring shit out makes it worse. The way the entire thing is run is shitty and doesn't make for good teachers. A TESL certificate and a BA do not a teacher make.

IN summary: HALP.

[(Anonymous)]

well i was using the word condescending from a cultural viewpoint, like, a lot of my friends have told me that their teachers used to say things like "we do it like this where i'm from and you should do it like that too because it's far superior to your way of doing things", or "haha you guys are so cute, the way you do your silly little things", or "look at you trying to hard to speak english! you're so precious" as actual feedback when they wanted serious advice on how to improve their accents, and stuff.

as far as your own experience goes, your problem doesn't sound like an exclusively esl issue, more of a teaching issue. or maybe, on some level, it comes across as though you're purposely dumbing yourself down when you talk to your students because you don't think they can handle anything else. i've never taken esl, but i have plenty of friends who did, and that was usually their biggest problem-- they might not have had a full command of the english language, but they resented anyone who didn't give them to opportunity to at least try.