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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-08 07:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #1801 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1801 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Venture Brothers]


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03.
[Batman]


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04.
[It's Not My fault I'm Not Popular]


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05.
[Ray Force]


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06.
[The Future I Whisper to You/Stargate Atlantis]


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07.
[Terry Pratchett's Going Postal]


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08.
[Code Geass]


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09.
[Gokusen]


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10.
[Code Geass]


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11.
[Alison Brie/How I Met Your Mother]


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12.
[The Vampire Diaries]


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13.
[Final Fantasy X]


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14.
[Supernatural]


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15.
[Community]


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16.
[Martin Solveig]


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17.
[Clocktower series]


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18.
[Winnie the Pooh]


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19.
[Supernatural]


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20.
[Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers]


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21.
[The Sing-Off]


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22.
[Oglaf]


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23.
[Strangers with Candy]


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24.
[Supernatural]


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25.
[The Lion King]


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26.
[S-CRY-ed]


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27.
[Bones]


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28.
[Fate/Zero]


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29.
[A Christmas Carol]


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30.
[Sequential Art]


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31.
[ZUN/Jun'ya Ota]


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32.
[Diablo 2]


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33.
[Friends]


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34.
[Winter Soldier #1]


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35.
[Supernatural, Florence + the Machine]


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36.
[Victorious]


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37.
[Easy A]


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38.
[The Vampire Diaries]


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39.
[The Vampire Diaries]


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40.
[Holly Black, Spiderwick Chronicles]


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41.
[Monkey Island]


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42.
[The Vampire Diaries]


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43.
[Kurokami/Black God]


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44.
[Eden of the East]


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Notes:

Rec meme on Saturday, then!

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 050 secrets from Secret Submission Post #257.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-09 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
OP here. If it helps, penises also look like malformed mushrooms growing from dead moss or [carnivorous] deep-sea tube worms to me. Since tube worms are near the top of my list of "really gross-looking things I never want to see in real life," I'd venture a guess that maybe I'm not being misogynistic so much as honest. I'm not saying penises are any better or that I want one, I'm saying I don't have as much of a physical aversion to them.

But you know, thanks for affirming my fear that most other women wouldn't understand. It's not bad enough that I get things like "you should accept your body, you can't do much about it" or "just have sex, you'll feel better" and "having babies will change all that" or "you're just being angsty" every time I try to share my feelings. Like telling a female what she feels isn't something other women might even possibly feel or agree with isn't misogynistic at all?

I also thought I was pretty clear that I know I'm not normal. I've had those feelings since before I'd ever heard those comparisons used by anyone else, I'm not parroting something a man once said or whatever. In my experience, most men (and women) tend to argue that vaginas are pretty awesome.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-09 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No, those trying, marginalizing experiences you've been through aren't misogynistic. They are hurtful, and it's disappointing not to be heard, but they are not analogous to the misogyny that exists the the culture as a whole. Your experience of positive attitudes towards vaginas notwithstanding, the world at large sees women's bodies, and in particular their genitalia as something to be controlled and as something to be beautified because they are never good enough or acceptable on their own terms. The language you use to talk about your personal feelings has it's roots in the historic fear and distrust of women's bodies.

As for your thanks, please. You don't need your "fear" affirmed by me, you already imagine yourself as the victim of a vast "vulvas are beautiful what is wrong with you" conspiracy. Don't lay your issues with your body on other women. Please just talk to a professional.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-09 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't lay your issues with your body on other women.

I'm...not? I never asked another woman to fix me. I've never said "what the hell is wrong with you, let me educate you on your wrong opinon about vaginas!" I just disagree. Is there really that big an issue with simple disagreement? I could say "I don't think redheads are attractive" and there'd be no issue with it, right? (I think redheads are awesome though tbh.) Well, I don't think vulvas are attractive. I'm not attracted to them because I can't stand the sight of them. I've tried to. I want to be okay with them. My body refuses it. It's honestly that simple.

I'm not sure where you are in the world that you have to deal with something that blatantly demeaning regarding the aesthetics of vaginas in particular, but I'm sorry you do. I'm glad I'm don't see that. My dislike of them came out of seemingly nowhere. I'd like to know where, and why, and I'd like to talk to someone about it. I just chose to make a secret before taking the next step.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-09 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
OP, that was either a very shitty troll or a very mean person. Please don't listen to them. We have assholes like that regularly in this community who love to slam other people in the name of feminism/social justice/whatever-it-is-now and make everyone else look bad by association.

I can assure you that, I, at least, as a woman, did not feel offended by your words, even if I don't share your sentiments. You seem like a fairly self-aware person, and do not appear to be misogynistic or woman's-genitals-shaming or whatever.

I really do hope that you can find a therapist or a doctor to help you (I don't know if there are any with expertise in these manners near you?).

If face-to-face help is not available, there are internet forums and groups out there of other people who care about these topics (and I hope they don't have mean people like this community often has).

OP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-11 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I'm not letting her harshness get to me, since I think the actual point of her posts was tough love and education about how the words I chose could hurt people. Instead I'll just take her words as criticism like I would if it were against a story I'd written or something, and learn from it.

I'll look into exploring this with professionals and people online who are willing to help (like most people in this thread ♥). I hope I can accept myself someday.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-10 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
NA

Waaaah, poor internet asexuals and self-loathing women!! How dare anybody come along and tell them they're tired of hearing female genitals disparaged?! The special snowflakes must be FREE, FREE, I tell you, to enforce social norms, and we all must coddle them!

Get OVER yourself, and get some help.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly just cannot take you seriously

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-11 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
asexual =/= social norm

Just saying.

Also what is an internet asexual? Is it kind of like the internet super-highway, in that they're sort of like the real-life equivalent, just on the internet?
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