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fandomsecrets2011-12-17 03:35 pm
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Do you know much about the reaction after? I feel like maybe the reaction after is part of why people are still angry. There was a TON of fan response from queer people, talking about how it meant a lot to have a queer ship openly acknowledged. Some asked for the ship to be canon. Most just wanted the ship to be treated like any other ship and not get censored. (The Finn ships can't both happen, and neither is particularly censored, for example.) Some of them talked about growing up gay, and feeling like they had to make a choice between being true to themselves, or being an okay, normal person. Some people talked about REALLY bad stuff that happened in their youth. (Disclosure: I wrote one of these responses, but it was far from the only one.) Some of these were on tumblr, and some of these were reblogs-with-commentary of posts originally by Fred. If you're not a tumblr person, Fred would have been able to see posts that were reblogs-with-commentary of his own posts.
And Fred DID see some of those posts! He responded to several that were about shipping freedom and that sort of thing (one reply that described the Marceline/Bubblegum fanart as "spicy", when the ones that were shown on the segment were... um... not.) He didn't respond to one real-life-gay post.
I don't think I'm an entitled person, and I didn't feel butthurt that my own post didn't get a reply. I'm kinda balls at writing, so mine was far from the best. But I think it shows something that ALL the real life gay posts got ignored. Not even a "I'm sorry, because the video implied that the relationship would be happening on the show, MY higher-ups aren't okay with it." Either Fred didn't know how to respond, or Fred thought that not one real life gay message was worthy of a response.
I don't want to sound like an angry SJ warrior or anything! I'm happier when I'm calmer and I try to have a discussion, so I've been doing that more than just blaaaargh rage lately. And please don't think I'm angry at you personally, or at your position. I guess just... it's hard not to know that gay people, especially gay children, can face a lot of pressure to be straight and don't always have good and varied representations of gay people to help counteract that. I think it's really not hard to know that if you're working in anything media related and you've got even the most passing concern for gay people not hating themselves. So maybe there IS a good reason not to come off like the show you represent isn't treating same-gender love like a taboo? I feel like maybe not caring at all in a situation like this is also kind of a bad thing for Fred to have done, if that's what he did.