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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-18 03:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #1811 ]

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[identity profile] amarra-jade.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Gwen only saw Lancelot once a year, whereas she sees Arthur every day. Lancelot never stuck around long enough to be a true rival for Gwen's affections IMO. And I'm not just saying that because I ship A/G; I think it could have been a lot more interesting if he had stuck around.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yea, and I never understood why he never stayed. Just made no freaking sense. From that second time he left, you could already see all of Gwen's agency slipping away. "It's OK, Gwen. You just stand there while two guys decide what's best for you without asking you. It's cool." UGH.

I WISH he would have stuck around. It would have been so much better. And I wish they hadn't made it some enchantment BS that was the crux of The Betrayal. I wish it could have been real. The fact that it was fake even removes MORE of Gwen's agency (what little scraps she's clinging to anyway) and makes her relationships with Arthur AND Lance seem cheap.

[identity profile] amarra-jade.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think they technically couldn't keep him around because of Santiago's availability. But yeah. Totally agree about how it removes Gwen's agency (one of the many ways this show fails in portraying women, lol).

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That's true. But then they could have had a confrontation between then in the episode where he dies. Something like "I know you still care for me but I've made my choice. You left me. Even when you knew I cared for you. Because you thought you knew what was best for me. So now I've made a choice and I'm standing by it."

That would have done exactly the same thing in terms of cementing Arthur/Gwen, and in a much more believable way because Lancelot, being the noble heart he was, would never have tried to force her hand. Lance would still be around and Arthur/Gwen would be a proper, developed canon, instead of an awful cringe-fest.

[identity profile] amarra-jade.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that would have been a lot better. I don't agree about A/G being an awful cringefest, obviously, but YMMV (although I admit the past few eps have sort of diminished by A/G love).

[identity profile] ketita.livejournal.com 2011-12-19 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's what bothered me. In the earlier seasons, I could really see the Betrayal coming, because Gwen had real chemistry with Lancelot. I actually thought for once there would be a believable, painful love triangle.
I really hated that it was forced on her artificially =/ it took the punch out of it.