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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-22 07:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #1815 ]

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] p-zeitgeist.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Why? As a matter of literary history, Austen has always been deeply admired and read by men -- in some periods, her prominent and vocal fans were more likely to be male than female.

[identity profile] wynndfae.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Especially since Austen's men are some of the manliest men to have ever manlied. She didn't write doting fops or anything like that. She had a very good understanding of the men in her time, something a lot of female authors seem to either overdo or not do at all.

And I am not being biased just because I happen to love all of Jane Austen's male characters. Even the obnoxious ones. I would love it if my guy friends gave her work a chance, but they don't because it's "girly". Nonsense. Those books could easily appeal to both sexes if one of them would just give them a chance.

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[identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Your statement does not surprise me but it does intrigue me.

Although I also have to say this is not a "problem" I've run into in any of my fandoms. The subject of Jane Austen just doesn't come up a lot, not even in my own fic.

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[identity profile] writerserenyty.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed! Some of her earliest fans/supporters were men.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
That's an interesting fact but in a modern setting, with all the prejudices about Jane Austen being "women's writer", it might be unusual for a male character to profess a good deal of interest in her works (depending on the character).

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[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
how many times has this actually ever happened to you?

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
OP

A lot. Every single time I enter a fandom where one of the characters of my preferred pairing is supposed to be bookish.

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[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
is this something that happens a lot?

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
not OP, but now that I think about it, I've read a bizarre number of fics that had a male character randomly settling down to read an Austen novel. It doesn't bother me, but it made lol a little depending on who the character was.
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[identity profile] mutantjules.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
porque? I know a few. They're badass dudes.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
See, I can see why this would be annoying if the author just was randomly saying "Badass Canon-Character-or-OC McManliness sat down and read JANE AUSTEN to prove who ~deep~ and ~sensitive~ he is", or to have them read Jane Austen, to show that the author has read Jane Austen, but just in general... Guys reading Jane Austen isn't that big of a deal. :/
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[identity profile] strangetwn-god.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
How about a raucous, two-fisted Austen fan?

[identity profile] writerserenyty.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
True story, but back in high school the people that enjoyed Pride and Prejudice the most were guys, at least in my class (other than me, who already adored Jane Austen). The guys all really liked it because the writing is in fact really hilarious.

I haven't found any other Jane Austen enthusiasts that are male, but IMO a male character liking Pride and Prejudice or another Austen novel (Northanger Abbey <33) isn't that weird.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
Northanger Abbey is such a flawed book, but it is so dang funny I will never, ever care.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
I read a young adult novel where the male protagonist proved he wasn't just a dumb blond by quoting Jane Austen or something. He was supposed to be a party boy so it was pretty WTF. People can have diverse interests but some things are just unlikely.

[identity profile] finmagik.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
My Dad read Jane Austen..then again now my Dad is a MtF but that was before my Dad was a lady. Back when my Dad was a manly man. but we still joke about a Pride & Prejudice movie verison where Lizzie and Darcy are rival Assassins and have big snarky sword fight.

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh, Mr Darcy~! -swoon-

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
When I was in high school, my junior and senior English teacher (who was a man) was the biggest Austen fan that ever lived. There are men out there who love her, just as there are women out there who can't stand her writing.

[identity profile] ansley15.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously you have never met one of my English professors. Actually, make that half the department (professors and male students)...but this guy practically had a nerdgasm over her all the time. It was quite adorkable, actually.
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[identity profile] magyargirl3.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
My best male friend loves Austen more than I do. In fact, I like more stereotypically masculine works than he does. A man loving Austen is not unusual.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-23 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny (and sad) how things change. IIRC, it was sometimes theorized soon after publication that the writer of "Pride and Prejudice" must have been a man because women simply weren't that clever. Disgusting, but indicative of how well she was regarded.

You're probably correct though, that most modern "macho" men write her off as a girly thing a priori due to the rather bizarre romantic Jane Austen cottage industry that seems to have sprung up. Really, hers are some of the most cutting and least sentimental novels I've ever read.

[identity profile] verschreibsel.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of You've Got Mail when she tries to make him see how great and romantic P&P is but he won't have it.

[identity profile] rubykatewriting.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, god, when he's in the kitchen and is looking at the book like it's sprouting two heads and five arms, I die laughing, especially with the voiceover. Tom's face can really cure all ills.

[identity profile] arcadiaego.livejournal.com 2011-12-23 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just watching a documentary about Austen fans are there are plenty of men. There was a society of Austen fanboys in the early 20th Century!