[ SECRET POST #1815 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1815 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 41 secrets from Secret Submission Post #259.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

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Okay, I'm not a huge X-men fan and the movies are my only point of reference, but based on First Class this is what I will never understand about Magneto: Shaw, the guy who killed Erik's mother, the one who made Erik's life hell and tortured him and did whatever the fuck to mess him up so completely? He's not human. He's a mutant. Shaw's the one who sets up the whole "mutants are genetically superior humans, humans must be eradicated, blah blah", which 1) who does that sound like? Nazis/Hitler is the answer, and 2) why on earth does Erik take up the mantle of the guy who totally and completely ruined his life and was an awful person? Why does he not go for the complete opposite of what Shaw was advocating, if he hates Shaw so much (and he clearly does hate Shaw that much)?

I mean. I mean. I got it more in the earlier movies, when we didn't have all the Shaw backstory to go on, but it's only since First Class that I've seen people going, "Hey, he might've had a point, there". That whole deep significant exchange leading up to the "Peace was never an option"? What does Charles say? "You think all humans are like Shaw". But Shaw is not human, so that doesn't even make sense to me. Shaw's dickishness doesn't come from his humanity, it comes from the power his, um, power gives him.

I don't know, it's just illogical to me.

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That's the greatest irony of Magneto: in trying to fight the Nazis, he has become one of them. I don't think he knew Schmidt was a mutant, just another Nazi human. He hates Schmidt/Shaw, but he inherently agrees with his ideology. He was abused and has now become the abuser. Magneto's believed Shaw was a human and a monster for so long that he is unable to believe that one of his own kind would have done what he did.

First Class creates an amazing Magneto backstory, one that shows a much greater depth of hatred and injustice. Your genetic sequence is not what makes you a good or bad person but your character, and your struggle to overcome it. Shaw actually humanizes the Nazis somewhat, taking them from a malignant but vague evil to a very personable choice to be evil. Shaw wanted a greater human race. He sacrificed what he felt needed to be sacrificed (Magneto's mother and the guards) to get his results and, ultimately, Magneto comes to believe the same. It's a great circle of hate, which emphasizes Xavier's struggle to create peace. And, wow, I didn't really mean to go on a tangent about First Class being a huge lesson in morals.

I found taking the actual helmet strange, too, but I think it was more of blocking Xavier out and a war trophy than a symbolic taking up of Shaw's mantle.