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⌈ Secret Post #1816 ⌋

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It's nice you're doing well now, but fuck captcha. It's free labor and if publishers and the like want their book digitized, they should hire people or get interns to do it for free. I also love when people get words in Hebrew or Arabic and they don't have the ability to write them.

or just random jumbles of letters and numbers- I've gotten things that look like someone dumped their alphabet soup on the screen.

I'm a librarian, and as long as websites are having to do something to keep the bots at bay by having us demonstrate that we're human beings, it might as well be something useful. OCRs are notoriously inaccurate, and every little bit helps.

This. I also personally like being able to help.

I agree. I don't like it when I get an alphabet I don't have on my keyboard but really, so what? It takes five seconds to try again and get a new text.

Yup, I say we might as well put our ability to read words to good use. I'd rather help digitize a book than have to type in entirely random letters and numbers. If you get something you can't read/type, there's a refresh button.

Why don't they get volunteers though? Especially when there are people out there actively trying to sabotage captcha? I have no idea what OCR stands for.

Optical Character Recognition.

And the volunteers wouldn't be typing up books, they would be PROOFREADING them, which is much more mind-numbing. I have doubts they would be able to get enough volunteers to do that without it being incredibly slow.

Having volunteers type the books seems like a better idea than using the system they use now, since volunteers are more likely to type what they see without mistaking any characters for another character. It's still free and doesn't require expensive machines that make more mistakes than a human could.

That would slow down the process immensely. And in the mean time comment systems still need something to cut down on spam.

They do. (http://www.pgdp.net/c/)

OCR stands for "optical character reader". It's a program that tries to translate scanned pages into something a computer can understand.

There are people trying to sabotage captcha? Why on earth? Do they want to go to those scrambled letters that are almost impossible to decipher instead?

OCR is kind of like a scanner, but sort of the reverse. It takes images of text and turns them into editable text files (the one I used turned them into .txt files, but I know there are more advanced ones that can turn it into a .doc file), but it's pretty inaccurate. I've only used one once, but it does things like take the letter "C" and interpret it as a parenthesis (. Or an "S" as "$"- it's kind of funny to see the things it can come out with, but I can imagine it would be a huge pain in the ass if you had to digitize a bunch of documents.

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But Project Gutenberg only archives books with no copyright restrictions -- which usually means works that were published at least 100 years ago whose copyright has expired. Yeah, it's free labor, but it's to produce a free product. All the original publishers are long since dead. Even if they had somehow seen into the future to foresee the demand for electronic texts, I'm pretty sure they don't have a whole lot of interns at their disposal at this point that they can set to work digitizing a text that the publisher no longer owns.

Then why not ask people to volunteer then? I'm sure there are a lot of people who wouldn't mind typing books up for the hell of it.

Project Gutenberg does have volunteers and lots of them. But it's a huge task. There are millions of books to be "read".

Look, think of it this way, Captcha, because it stalls out computerized posting, prevents a ton of spam from hitting your blog or your inbox. Spam that would, frequently, include either phishing attempts or malicious code. So you're going to be stuck doing something to prove you're a human being pretty frequently on sites with a lot of user input. Once that something started to be "read this and type it back" someone had the bright idea of combining scanned images of words computers were having trouble with "read this", since it was a task that needed doing. There are captcha type things which don't do anything but prove you're a human, but with reCaptcha, your effort means something. Sometimes your input confirms that the OCR program has the letters right, sometimes it disentangles actual words, but when you're doing that you're accomplishing something useful and not just wasting your keystrokes into the ether.

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